ManCan Says:
December 4th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
And actually, we do discuss the men who walk away from their kids by choice. They do it because society dishonors fathers instead of rewarding them. This isn't a situation that encourages responsible social behavior. But the vast majority of divorces are filed by women, and most men aren't allowed to play the role in their kids' lives that they want to play.
Restore men to their rightful status and you will see more responsible behavior and fewer social problems.
Danny Says:
December 4th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
ManCan:
Restore men to their rightful status and you will see more responsible behavior and fewer social problems.
And before some nutcase reads this one line and then runs off to display it as proof that all MRAs are bad news I'm pretty sure the status ManCan is talking about equal partnership in parenting. That means sharing the joys AND the burdens.
I think that readers can get an accurate understanding of exactly what mancan was saying when he gave his opinion. I do not see it as allowing fathers to be a part of their child's life, I think it was more along the lines of women should not have any rights and children are property - of the fathers. One only needs to do a search for his name to see the clearly misogynistic comments posted by mancan in order to determine this. Or you might see it like Danny. I do not though.
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society dishonors fathers instead of rewarding them
In which country?
I have no idea. I was discussing my work here (had to miss a day due to these very same issues, and was too worn out emotionally to post anything (dealing with ex and his belief system again). It seems to me (at least in my case and those cases of many mothers I have met) that society actually dishonors women and mothers. I know I have been dishonored for what I have achieved. I hope to be around long enough to tell my whole story from start to finish (be prepared for a very long read as this spans nearly 3 decades and counting). My story will quickly disprove that fathers are dishonored. It will likely create a huge uproar in society when I can finally come out.
precisely where in that quote does he say anything that equates with this...
I think it was more along the lines of women should not have any rights and children are property - of the fathers.
My story will quickly disprove that fathers are dishonored.
One story proves nothing one way or the other.
It will likely create a huge uproar in society when I can finally come out.
Messiah complex.
He does not specifically say this but this is exactly my point. MRAs will delve into innuendo and be very vague and leave it up to the reader as to what they are saying. If you would like I will go back to Sacks' site and pull out more misogynistic responses from mancan.
@anonymous#2
My own personal story might not "dirpove" this, but it will allow other women in my position to be able to vocalize what has been done to them. It will go a long way to changing laws. I challenge you to stick around for a decade. You will then see.
so much for not publishing anonymous comments. yet you say its sacks that has the double standard
MRAs will delve into innuendo and be very vague and leave it up to the reader as to what they are saying.
you could say that about most feminists including you saying things like -I challenge you to stick around for a decade. You will then see.
ps
please take down my photo- i did not give u permission to use it.
@jennifer
I will give people a chance. However when someone's only purpose is to delve immediately into name calling I will not post that. So far there is only one comment in moderation waiting to be approved, is this your comment? It will be published soon enough.
@malepig
I could also say your name fits..... And why is it when I say I am protecting myself and my child and I also say that when the proper time comes I will tell our story? Of course this is dependent on several things. First - how long our abuse was - it has been almost 5 years, I do not see any let up. Second - what the laws look like then (if abused women and children are not ripped apart in court and abusers are held to answer no matter what, then the need for my story might not be there. Third - it will depend on where everyone is 8 or 10 years from now, again this has to do with the abuse factor - it might end. And last and most important, it will dpend on the child. If the child states theyb want to come forward or specifically requests that I not come forward, then those wishes are of course more important.
"I could also say your name fits"
stop othering me.
By the way, no posts in 3 days- giving up already?
No it is called having a life. Not to worry - more coming tonight. And thes ewill be excellent examples of the cult in action.
@anonymous Dec 7, 2:23 am
You can sit and judge me, yet you do not know my story at all. I will not divulge it until the correct time (to protect myself and my children). You can call this a messiah complex but those who know me know my story is true and NOBODY should have to endure what I endured - worse what my chidlren have endured. FRs are walking in a light drizzle with their "claimed" outrages, whereas I was/am walking in a full fledged Category 5 hurricane. You do not know me, and you have no right to make a judgement call such as this. I only published your comment just to show how "judgemental" MRAs actually are.
I should have rejected it.
How dare you. Im not anonymous. My name is Porky- that's porcine to you madam- and I am watching you.
Well if you and the anonymous posters are one and the same then so be it. However, I was not addressing you "porky", I was addressing the anonymous poster from December 7 at 2:23.
And you obviously "thinly" veiled threats about watching me have no effect on me. I will continue this blog no matter what happens, even if I have to go to ther library to do so.
madam, you are truly a densan. The so-called "veiled threat" is made more than clear by the link i supplied. It is not a threat of violence, which is probably what you are intimating. I give you this piece of grunting from Porky's Place (watching the watcher)....
What the hell is this?
This blog is a way to keep track of the lies and misrepresentations spouted by “Glennscult” without having my analyzes deleted. As "Glennscult" goes, so this blog goes. She is already showing signs of disinterest(some people just don't have what it takes for the long haul) so this will probably be a short-lived enterprise.
Sooner or later this thing will get legal and i am here to catalog your various acts of defamation against Mr Sacks and my other fellow pigs. All your pages are being saved so that even if you pull them down the evidence for defamation will be there.
He who grunts last grunts hardest.
Did I call any of you pigs in my site? I only have pictures of pigs posted but do not recall calling any of you pigs? Anytime I say someone is acting in a certain manner I always put a question mark behind it so my reader may draw their own conclusion. I state my "opinions" on the postings of Glenn and his followers and as such am protected under the first ammendment.
Grunt Grunt Snort Snort.
Have fun porky.
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