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November 12, 2009

MRA's would not be angry if only moms would "share parenting?"

I was sent this link by a protective mother. I find it quite interesting because 99.9% of the men and women in the FR movement say if only she (meaning the bio-mom) would share custody, I owuld not be angry. Well this one blows that hypothesis right out of the water ladies and gents. Please be sure to read the highlighted portions.

Oh and I should add that more people need to start paying attention to warning signs. And rather than just think oh maybe I should do something, DO IT!!!! The next life you save may be mine or someone you love and care about. Don't just sit on your hands and say - oh I don;t think that is a good idea. SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!!




Oregon woman killed by husband filed for divorce

PORTLAND, Ore. — An Oregon woman had filed for divorce just a week before her estranged husband opened fire at the suburban Portland office park where she worked, fatally shooting her and injuring two of her co-workers before killing himself.

Teresa Beiser, 36, was asking for joint custody of her two children with Robert Beiser, 39, in what appeared from court documents to be an amicable dissolution of their marriage.

But a martial arts instructor who knew the Gladstone couple well said Robert Beiser bought firearms recently and wanted to go to a shooting range to practice.

"He never had guns, and all of he sudden he buys guns," said Al Dorsey, who has taught the couple's 14-year-old daughter tae kwan do for several years.

Dorsey said many parents and students at the TaeKwanDo 2 martial arts training hall, based in suburban Milwaukie, Ore., are considered friends. He knew the Beisers well and watched the childhood sweethearts struggle with their marriage before their divorce petition was filed last week in Clackamas County Circuit Court.

"Rob came in all the time and talked to me, and Teresa would talk to me or my wife," Dorsey said.

But when Robert Beiser recently showed an interest in guns and wanted to go to a shooting range, Dorsey — an Army veteran — was wary.

"I told my wife, 'I don't feel comfortable going shooting with anybody that's going through a divorce,'" he said.


Wednesday evening, the Tualatin Police Department released more details about the shooting at the medical lab where Teresa Beiser worked. Police said Robert Beiser got out of his vehicle shortly before noon Tuesday and began firing into the front windows of the Legacy MetroLab. He was armed with a rifle, a shotgun and a handgun.

He fired at least three rounds into the building from the parking lot. One of those rounds struck Teresa Beiser as she was standing near the front lobby.

Robert Beiser yelled at a man in the lobby to get out of the building as he continued to fire multiple shots, police said.

One of Teresa Beiser's co-workers — 20-year-old Brittney Nichole Lore of Vancouver, Wash. — was near the front doors and was injured by flying glass and bullet fragments. She ran out of the building and flagged down help at a nearby Subway sandwich shop, police said.

Lore was treated at a Portland hospital and released.

Another Legacy employee, 63-year-old Tony Ochoa of Tigard, was sitting at his desk when he was struck in the hand and chest with one of the first rounds fired into the building, police said.

He started running out of the building but was confronted by Robert Beiser and shot in the leg. He then crawled to a neighboring business, where an employee administered first aid until officers arrived.

Police said Ochoa was recovering at a Portland hospital; an update on his condition was not available Wednesday evening.

Investigators found Teresa Beiser's body near the lobby. She had been shot multiple with an assault rifle and shotgun.

Robert Beiser's body was found in a bathroom at the back of the lab. He died from a self-inflicted shotgun wound, police said.

Other than some moodiness and appearing distracted, Robert Beiser showed no signs that he was capable of such violence, Dorsey said.

Dorsey said he and Robert Beiser had discussed some recent shootings in the news, sharing their concerns. "He even said, 'There's nothing that bad that would make you want you to do something like that,'" Dorsey said.

Beiser and his wife were both working two jobs, and were devoted to their daughter and 11-year-old son, said Dorsey and other family friends.

A neighbor on a side street said she and her husband frequently walked past the couple's house and noticed how neat and tidy it was.

"The house was always well-kept, and they always decorated at Christmas," said Vicki Obrist, who added that she and her husband never got to know the family.

Dorsey said Teresa Beiser was working to become a competitive body builder, and she pushed her daughter to be competitive in tae kwan do.

He said Robert Beiser had worked on fundraisers for trips to tae kwan do tournaments and had accompanied his daughter. The couple appeared to be friendly when they attended tae kwan do practice sessions.

"He really loved his kids, and he really loved her too," Dorsey said. "This man worked hard, and I think his world just started crumbling."

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

More links on this story:

Victim Was Worried About Violence, Family Says

November 11, 2009

Forty percent of MRA's are female?






John D Says:

November 11th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Thanks Joan for your kind consideration of mens rights.

When I talk about men's rights to family and friends, the first thing I point out is that MRA members are 40% female--if we were all about "extending control of abusive men" how could this be possible.


Maybe you need those 40% so you can play the games liek Terri Stoddard did:

http://glennscult.blogspot.com/2009/10/teri-stoddard-real-play-or-role-play.html

http://glennscult.blogspot.com/2009/10/teri-stoddard-real-play-or-role-play_10.html

http://glennscult.blogspot.com/2009/10/teri-stoddard-real-play-or-role-play_6812.html

http://glennscult.blogspot.com/2009/10/teri-stoddard-real-play-or-role-play_1470.html

http://glennscult.blogspot.com/2009/10/teri-stoddard-real-play-or-role-play_641.html

http://glennscult.blogspot.com/2009/10/teri-stoddard-real-play-or-role-play_6288.html

http://glennscult.blogspot.com/2009/10/teri-stoddard-real-play-or-role-play_5424.html

http://glennscult.blogspot.com/2009/10/teri-stoddard-real-play-or-role-play_358.html

http://glennscult.blogspot.com/2009/10/teri-stoddard-real-play-or-role-play_1907.html

http://glennscult.blogspot.com/2009/10/teri-stoddard-real-play-or-role-play_7891.html

http://glennscult.blogspot.com/2009/10/teri-stoddard-real-play-or-role-play_5605.html

http://glennscult.blogspot.com/2009/10/teri-stoddard-real-play-or-role-play_9377.html

I will update to clickable links in a bit. Early day at work tomorrow and must go jump in the shower. But you get the drift on these posts if you copy and paste. I guess the reason for women being in the MRA movement is for little slave toys (or maybe because the second wives will not get off their butts and get a job and think that the money being paid for child suipport is a waste). It is one or the other. I actually think both.

Bring back the old ways






dad4justice Says:

November 10th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
It's a sad world. Poor kids. Bring back the old ways.


Now I wonder how far back he wants us to go? Oooops never mind, I almost forgot - back to BEFORE women had rights - NOW I remember......

November 10, 2009

He is going to jail for climbing a crane (mutter under breath about how dense some can be)






If Franklin County Ohio prosecutor Ron O’brien gets his way, two fathers, Donald Tenn and Paul Fisher will be spending the next 18 months in prison with fines yet to be determined, why? For being good, fit, willing fathers, that’s why.....(taken from Smurphy's 'Mike Murphy' blog)


Last I saw they do not take men to court for being good fathers. Good fathers do not beat their wives. Good fathers do not want to take a child away from her mother. Good fathers say okay she said I did this what could I have done, or why does she see it this way? Now on the other hand when someone climbs up on a crane and endangers people's lives (such as the bystanders and police on scene), then they do get arrested and they generally do go to court (as they should). They do NOT go to court for being a good dad.

DUH!!!!!

John Boy pondering and questioning






John Boy Says:

November 10th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
I have often wondered why legal cases like Shockome are so important to gender feminists. There are enough actual DV claims out there that you would think they would focus their energy on something more productive. Why this one?


Well John Boy did you ever think that maybe, just maybe there are cases out there whcih would destroy any claims men had on children? Cases which could show how an abuser does exactly as he feels? Cases which would blow you FR's out of the water? And where are these cases? Well many times the abused woman is forced underground. Or they speak out in the only way they can - anonymously through blogs. Hmmm sound familiar Petunia? Makes you wonder who exactly Petunia is - doesn't it? And exactly what Petunia can do to the MRA movement. Well just keep waiting... You will one day see what Petunia can do

Tim O'Brien and his "research"

Tim OBrien Says:

November 10th, 2009 at 9:46 am
Wow. Hard to believe they're still dragging out Genia as an example....


Well, Tim all I have to say to this little comment is just give it a few years. The so-called feminists as you like to lump us into one group, will have many more cases for you to do your supposed research on. Oh and be prepared, what you will find will be ugly (for your side). But oh I guess then you will dig up some obscure or absuive relative of the mothers and children in these cases to say they are abusive or worse. Kind of reminds me what has happened to Jennifer Collins (A NOW GROWN WOMAN WHOSE FATHER REFUSED TO SPEAK TO HER) and her mother Holly Collins. Will you villify the upcoming moms and kids like you have done with genia and Holly and the kids like Jennifer? Got news for you bub, my children are much more stubborn than any of the children who have spoken to date. I am much more stubborn than the moms out there (not saying they are not). And you will be facing a brick wall when my children and I come forward and when some of these other chidlren and moms come forward. So be prepared... Hasta Manana bub...........(when is manana in these cases? just wiat and see)




November 7, 2009

A loving father?






I always believed that being "allowed" supervised visits is an abomination and amounts to a consolation prize, when prior to talk of a divorce, there was no concern about a non-custodial's ability to care for his child.
My kid was taken from me in New York. the judge tried that shit on me. That is to offer me a consolation prize. I declined, because I knew I would be no more than an out-of-state visitor and would have to fight each time to see the kid which up to that point, they refused to allow me to do. I would essentially be a baby sitter for the bitch, which I wasn't about to do, either. I would constantly be paying sharks to go to the court to ask for a little time with the kid. Not for me. I wasn't about to lose another dime in time or "shark" fees to get me something that should have been mine to begin with - a right to my kid.
It was heartwrenching to me - I felt like offing myself. But I eventually got over it. I haven't seen the kid since he was 2 1/2 y/o. Now he's almost 18. I understand he was recently trying to contact me, but I know for a fact it was only for more money. He, or I should say she gets $380.00/week from me. That's the extent of my involvement. If he wanted my involvement, he would have called me a long time ago and that didn't happen.


I ask you - are these the words of a loving father? Well apparently EFRMHP or ehosppharm@cxaxtxr.nxt seems to think so.

I am back

I am back and armed with a heavy arsenal after my short period of bereavement for Anonymums. I think she would want us BADASS MAMAS to continue in her memory and i plan to do so.




November 3, 2009

It is with a heavy heart and deep sadness all around...

that I discovered through facebook the passing of Anonymums. One of her associates posted this message for all to read:

Dear Friends and Supporters,It is with regret that we announce this sad notice. Anonymums has passed on.

Anonymums Smith goes on to continue below the post:

We are all mourning her loss and remembering her inspiration and strength that she brought to the mothers movement. It is her surviving members wish at this time that their privacy is respected, but they thank you for all of the support you have provided to the cause and hope that her messages will continue to live on beyond her departure.


I have been informed that services are to remain as Anonymums would have wished - anonymous for only close family. The family asks that in lieu of flowers, that donations be made to your local domestic violence shelter in her name.

Petunia will be observing a period of mourning for this dear sweet lady, and wonderfully ingenious activist and advocate for dv victims everywhere.

May you rest in peace Anonymums, your memory will live on forever......




October 27, 2009

Paul Clements on DV and Rape

Folks,
The federal gov't has prohibited the use of polygraph testing of supposed "victims" in all domestic violence cases. That's a violation of the due process right to confront witnesses against you. Ask your own attorney generals if this isn't so, and why it was not declared unconstitutional by YOUR state's supreme court.
Paul Clements
DADD-SC


This is in regards to a requirement of the federal government to state goivernments that victims not be pressured into undergoing a polygraph in order for the prosecuting attorney to file charges. Now Paulie boy here thinks that he has the right to force someone to undergo this invasion. I wonder what else he feels is HIS right?




Child support - 2nd wife too (IE STEPMONSTER) gets her own post






2ndwife too Says:

October 26th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
mrcustodycoach says;
"Radical thinking, I know. I often wonder why, if money is the primary beneficial factor for the children, why we don't put the kids where the money is instead and let the wage earners keep what they earn."

That just makes too much common sense.


How about the simple fact that it is greedy stepmonsters like you 2nd wife, who want all of the man's money for themselves. Or maybe you were a terrible mother to your own child and see these children as your redemption? Or maybe you cannot have your own children and you want to steal these children? Nah, I think it is pretty much you are just an extremely GREEDY person.

Mike Hunter on child support (this one gets its own post due to the extreme hatred)






Mike Hunter Says:

October 25th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
"My ex makes 150K but will only pay 30 percent of first 75k for child support. Not enough to keep the kids at home with me home schooling."

Cry me a river. That comes out to $22,500 a year; much more then it costs to support a kid or two. I support a family of 3 on $17,500 a year, go to college full time, and actually have to work for my money instead of the government taking from someone and giving it to me. Not to mention that I have to pay taxes on the money I make unlike child support which is tax free. Also I bet Texas has a much lower cost of living then Florida.

I have to find a job to support them.

You mean you have to find a job to support yourself. Child support is not mommy support. How did you plan to obtain money to live if you have no job, and use child support for the children? The magical money tree in your back yard?

Also shouldn't you be required to support your children. Child support is suppose to cover 50% of the cost of raising a child. The custodial parent is responsible for paying for the other 50%. I'm willing to bet that the child support you receive covers a lot more then half of the cost of raising your children. If the child support gets spent on the children at all.

I do believe you're entitled to some financial support.

Why? She chose not to continue her education. She chose to stay at home instead of working. Why shouldn't be responsible for her decisions? If any other person would have chose not to continue their education, and not to advance their career they would still be expected to work.

Is there some reason that she can't work such as disability? If she wanted to find employment she could find a job somewhere to support herself. Jobs flipping burgers, cleaning toilets, or washing dishes aren't too hard to find. Why should she not be forced to be financially accountable for herself, and the children she elected to have; just like every male born in this country is.


Okay nothing like some real hatred right at first blow - "Cry me a river"?

Now again we come to choices and decisions. Terri and her husband made a choice as to what Terri would do if they had children and up until this point, they had been following that path. Now because her husband has made a choice without consulting anyone and with very little thought as to how this would affect the children, he is going to become a woman. Hmmm lets see if I have this right? Two people discussing how life will work in regards to homeschooling versus one person arbitrarily deciding to do something which will not only affect himself but many others? Yep I think I got that scenario right - PATRIARCHY and it is okay in this FR/MRA eyes.

And gotta love this one - child support is supposed to be 50%. Men constantly are saying oh but I buy them clothes, I buy them food, I do this or I do that when they are with me. They do not get the costs of raising a child. They do not see the day in day out costs. This woman might be lucky and find a job (in this economy people with excellent resumes are unemployed so good luck with that one). So she is going to be able to find a job to go along with the 22.5k PER YEAR that she might or might not get from him. Again this is what she MIGHT get.

And again in his closing statement he is de-focusing on the choice made by the husband and focusing on a choice that was in all likelihood made by both the wife and the husband and condemning her for it. Nothing like victim blame in all it's glory here.

On a side note - Mike please share where in Florida you live so when I vacation there with my family, I can avoid the obvious hate filled area in which you live. And I say that simply because you are walking about able to post on websites and nobody has seen fit to expose your hate? You have yet to commit a hate crime against anyone? And you expect a judge to give you some sort of parenting time with your children? What so you can perpetuate your hate? Give us another generation of haterz?

October 25, 2009

Celtic Druid do you blindly spend thousands without research?

If you do then I can see why you are now divorced. I would NEVER purchase something or hire a person spending thousands of dollars without knowing something about the product or the person I was to hire. Let's see - I am going to the car lot, I will walk up to the first car I see and say okay I will take it. No test drive, no research on any issues this car might have, no reading of any reviews. Do you get the picture here? This is defintely an UNintelligent person speaking. But then what do we expect - coming from a site such as antimisandry.com?

Celtic Druid says:
I've read some samples of this woman's aggressive blatherings, and it's apparent she's in need of some psychiatric help. Quickly!!

Just imagine as a man you innocently stumble upon her law firm in/on the yellow pages/internet. Do you think a feminist this clearly demented is going to do everything in her power to properly represent you? Especially against a woman?

You could clearly kiss your kids goodbye in custody court, and your property and assets being stripped in divorce court - whilst she maintains a semblance of a defence on your behalf. It's bad enough going up against the opposing counsel and the usual default gynocentric judge, but this completes a totally rigged system.

Shouldn't she be forced to make some sort of disclosure that she is a radical feminist, and as such is incapable of effectively representing you, as a man, in a court of law?





No, Gonzman, you are simply amazing (NOT!!!!!)






Gonzman says:
It's amazing how the nagging goes down if you (1) train a woman that if she does it, whatever she's nagging about gets pushed back and lowered in priority, if it is done at all, and (2) If she tries to hold ex back to manipulate you, you'll get it elsewhere.

Sometimes breaking them of this habit hurts, but it is for their own good.


Anything need to be added? Nope - think this says it all......

Why do they not take their own advice?






Siam says:
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker.


So explain to me then Siam, why your fingers keep moving and why you keep spreading your hate everywhere?

Want some advice from Petunia? Quit moving yo dang fingers!!!!!