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mc Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
My comment was directed at the link between female voting power and the sex of the executive, elected leaders. With the monarchy, we have no say - we're pretty well stuck with whoever is born into the job. Fortunately, the job is purely a ceremonial one.
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1.Hold UP!?
Who is the STUPID one here?
I say it’s Bristol Palin…… and her parents….who did not teach their child to “just say NO” to premarital sex;
blame the female for the male and his sex drive this is priceless
they didn’t even teach the dumb, little twit name calling to shame the female?how to use “protection” to prevent STD’s! And they are damn lucky that all she got was pregnanc and not herpes, gardinella or HIV/AIDS!
Failure to educate your kids? That is stupid.
To blame Levi for the stupidity of Bristol and her parents is ludicrous.
Levi appears to be your average, red blooded, horney little dude……which describes millions of teenage boys around the globe. Did you ever think (oh I forgot you do not know how to THINK) that maybe just maybe Bristol might have those same feelings? Or are females not allowed those feelings?
He took what he could get….and Bristol gave it up..willingly and without protection for her own health.
Again, another stupid move on her part. more name calling and shaming
Levi’s not stupid…he’s young and an opportunist. Let's pump up the male and give him more power and control, women are supposed to be frail and weak and need protection. WHATEVER!!!!
It wasn’t Levi’s idea to strut across the national stage during Mc Cain’s campaign for President. oh was she supposed to go to a convent halfway across the country to hide the fact that she was pregnant because good little girls just do not do these types of things? AGAIN WHATEVER!!!!!
It wasn’t Levi’s idea to tell the whole, wide world how he “nailed” the Vice Presidential hopeful’s daughter. but he was sure there afterwards so he could keep being famous, keep having his 15 minutes in the spotlight. I think his 15 minutes has stretched into 24 hours and it is more than enough.
That was Sarah and her political advisors who made those decisions.
Stupid is as stupid does.
Levi was only 18….with no parents to advise him…or so it appears….in any case…..Levi did what Levi was told to do….as did Bristol. so it is okay that Levi did as the Palins tol dhim and Bristol should have done differently? AGAIN AND AGAIN WHATEVER!!!
They stupidly followed “stupid directives” from adults who should have known better….and who had an obligation to protect these kids.
In my mind…I keep thinking, ‘Good Lord Sarah Palin! Even in the animal kingdom, a mother protects her young!’ What is wrong with you!!!!!!
Did Sarah NOT think that these two kids would be devoured by the media?
Is Sarah so stupid…….. that she didn’t think people would judge the situation? Or that her child would suffer from all the world’s attention?
If she did…..Sarah is not only stupid……. she is “Queen Stupid”.
Sarah’s blind ambition got in the way of teaching her daughter the values and mores that she herself believes in…..
Sarah’s raw desire for fame and power….. got in the way of good decision making for the sake of her family…….and she did nothing to protect her child and her future grandbaby from the cruelty of media scrutiny; commentary and ridicule.
Queen Stupid.
Sarah threw these kids to the wolves….to further her own political ambitions.
And Levi…..teenage stud muffin that he ismaybe in your eyes, but in mine that towel was awful damn small!!!…..is taking advantage of it…..and why not?
Bristol is no more fit to parent a child than her mother is…..obviously.
I suspect God sent that special needs baby, Trig, to Sarah for one good reason…… so that maybe she could get her priorities straight and to teach her….. that children are a “gift” and they need mother’s attention and protection. to say this is a punishment from God is so beyoind comprehension, one must only assume you are a self-professed Christian. Your type of christian needs to stay away from me!!!!!
Ah, but Queen Stupid is instead out all over the country promoting and signing her book.
Meanwhile, she resents that Levi is taking advantage of the spotlight she put on him!
Like I said…..Queen Stupid.
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If the grandparents from Brazil do show up in the United States (they never will) one can only hope that the US government and the FBI takes a lead role in the prosecution of violations of US Code against family kidnappings and conspiracy to kidnap that “protective parents” deserve.
More curiously still, Sean Goldman has now returned to the United States and, by this account on ABC-TV, is happy to be on American soil and in fact gives every sign of remembering the original family home from which he had been abducted, and even the family pet cat. (David Goldman, his father, had not moved in the interim.) The only sour note is that the boy has not yet taken to addressing his father as “Dad,” but that might still come.
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Re: JugsForJustice.org
« Reply #6 on Mar 5, 2009, 12:34am »
First and foremost, I find it offensive every time a woman states that
men who like to look at breasts are perverts. Seems these women don't
know men very well. It is quite normal for men to enjoy looking at
breasts.
I did write "low traffic." That's because it was down to a little over
200 hits a month. But since I've been updating it I'm now getting over
400 hits a month. That's 400 more each month than we had before I made
the site. That's before I start posting again. And that's without the
nipples.
Jugs is not about family rights. It's mainly about men's rights. I'll
be including info on dv against males, false allegations of abuse,
etc, not just equal parenting.
I know this will work. And believe me, you need all the help you can
get. You guys have been waiting over 30 years for equal parenting. I'm
not that patient.
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mc Says:
December 20th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Marriage was a contract. A man promised to provide, and a woman promised him exclusive use of her womb. He paid her to bear his children. That's why they assumed his name. That's why up until 200 years ago they were considered his property until they came of age. This is how fatherhood became an institution and a cornerstone of civilization, rather than the random mating activity that is more commonly seen in Nature.
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Mark Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
To be honest I tend to favor a return to the idea that children of married parents are the property of the father, and children of unmarried parents have no father. In the first case is discourages divorce because there will be no child support payments. In the second case in discourages having children outside of marriage because there will be no child support payments.
Boston Parent Still Fighting to See His Children After Biased Court Decision
(link provided only for verification, entire spew posted here so no need to visit his site and jack his stats)
Protest Action by Mr. Andrew Steele, Boston
This are of the web site is about Mr. Andrew Steele. A Boston parent who lost any real contact with his four sons after a Divorce and wanted to make a peaceful statement about the violation of basic rights that occurred. I was able to speak to a good friend of his, Ms. Mandy Varona mandyvarona@yahoo.com who lives in Seattle and is familiar with Andrew and his history. I came away very impressed by his motivation and methods. This was a preplanned and thoughtful action his part. I encourage anyone, especially those in the Boston area, to contact Andrew & Ms. Varona.
December 10th, 2009: (Human Rights Day) The initial news report was:
"An unhappy parent was caught red-handed tagging a courthouse after being denied a holiday visit with his sons. Andrew Steele, 45, of Tacoma, Wash. used three cans of spray paint to write "Steele boys rights denied" in large letters on the Brockton District Court in Boston, Mass.... TheBostonChannel.Com & PatriotLedger.Com
Ms. Varona explained that Andrew had not planned to use regular spray paint! He was going to purchase cans "easy remove" paint -- the same type that is used to spray "Just Married" on cars.
He also prepared a two page "Purpose of Protest Statement" before his action -- which he knew was Human Right's Day, the start of Human Rights week. An excerpt from that statement:
PURPOSE OF PROTEST:
•My son rights have been and continue to be denied them.
•My rights have been and continue to be denied me.
•My children's mother's life has been made very difficult.
•Some family members have been and continue to be harmed.
FACT: Children need to feel special in Mom's life and Dad's. When they have this they do alright. When they are denied this they are at greater risk of having troubles. (click here to read complete statement)
CURRENT STATUS/CONTACT INFO:
"Mr. Steele was arraigned in Brockton, MA, court on charges of tagging, destruction over $250 and malicious damage. Steele was ordered held in lieu of $50,000 cash bail or $500,000 surety. He will return to court on Jan. 6." -- from TheBostonChannel.Com
I was told he does not plan on making bail and wishes to continue his protest as a prisoner. We encourage everyone to write him at:
Andrew Steele, #53441
Plymouth House of Corrections
Housing Unit BS1
26 Long Pond Rd.
Plymouth, MA 02360
He has a good friend, Ms. Mandy Varona. She is trying to help Andrew get as much publicity as possible. She is very familiar with his family background and struggles. She can be contacted at: Ms. Mandy Varona mandyvarona@yahoo.com , phone: (206) 313-9888
BACKGROUND:
For many years Andrew worked in construction. He married and the couple had four sons (who now range in age from 8-13). In his 40s he realized he would not be able to work construction for long and wanted to make a career change and become a Children's Book writer. He wrote and published one book (Amazon link below). His wife was not happy with this career change and sought divorce.
The divorce began in 2006 and almost immediately the Judge ordered "supervised visits" and Andrew could only see his four sons every other weekend, from 10am - 5pm, in a visit supervised by someone acceptable to his wife. There had been no type of threatening conduct on his part.
The divorce decree was issued in Nov of 2009 and no change was made to the visitation schedule or procedure. There was NO extra time for any vacations or holidays. Andrew had hoped for a return to more normal contact with his children -- this triggered his plan of action. (Click here for decree - NOTE: Andrew challenges the veracity of the some of the reported "Facts" listed. These documents are usually character assassination of the 'losing' party, but Andrew wanted to be completely upfront in the matter).
The children have been upset by the upheaval in the family structure and their father's long term, long distance absences. They have also been upset by their father's discussion of the divorce with them, as well as his tearfulness in their presence.
The party's oldest son XXXXXX (*) was diagnosed with epilepsy in the summer of 2007. As of the time of trial, Husband had not attended any of his son's doctor appointments or medical tests. Wife has diligently kept him informed regarding same. Wife sought conventional medical treatment for XXXXXXX (*). When she sought Husband's input and comments, he suggested neuropathic treatment for XXXXXX (*). He does not provide any information as to why neuropathic treatment would be better for XXXXXX (*). All he does is send website addresses to her.
On June 22, 2007, in response to Wife's report that XXXXXXX (*) may need glasses by age 10, Husband replied, "as for XXXXXXX (*), he needs to spend less time looking at things up close; he needs to spend time with me in the mountains".
"When you see heifers in your back yard and hear some fat lady singing. Actually if you do see cows in your backyard let me know that would be quite a sight. And fat women have beautiful voices and do amazing things for our country.
Product Description
The discovery of an alternate reality in outer space is linked to self-discovery in this story of the four Roar boys, who live in an orphanage in Brooklyn. When they are mysteriously recruited for spaceship pilot training, the boys learn that their parents were once space explorers and may have held secret knowledge about life on other planets. As their training intensifies, the boys realize they must stay together at all costs to survive against the evil forces racing across the heavens toward earth.
I just bought this book for my nephew's birthday. And, he could not even finish reading it and wished to return it to the store. And, unlike the cover pictures, I could not believe the storyline is rather banal and characters are not-so-creative. The author probably tried to recap the brotherhood once he cherished in his time. But it is distracting and inconsistent in the story development. And, I don't find any genuine lesson that children can truly believe. Maybe the author did not believe in it or did not know how to engage himself with the readers-children. I would not recommend this book to any children I know. Major Disappointment!
I ordered The Galaxy Boys and the Sphere through Amazon.com a couple of weeks ago. The shipping date listed at that time was - and it still is - December 13, 2007. The delay in shipping is due to the book being hot off the presses. So, HSLee must have discovered the book somewhere, soon after it rolled off the presses, in the UK perhaps, because it is only now reaching the U.S from Europe. I've noted, and encourage all others who may read HSLee's review to do the same, that HSLee has never reviewed a novel, not a story for children, at least not on Amazon.com, though he has reviewed a couple of books on architecture, and some CDs, and some DVDs, and some electronic devices, and an exercise rope. One may learn about a person by what he purchases, and then reviews, and likes, or not. HSLee - we don't really know who he is nor where he lives nor what he does for a living - is unclear in his review as to whether he himself reviewed The Galaxy Boys and the Sphere or if he left it up to his nephew. If he left it up to his nephew, how old is his nephew? What kind of boy is he? We would think we could trust an adult's opinion, but maybe this boy just doesn't like to read, though we can't know that. Or perhaps HSLee himself doesn't really like to read, or just doesn't like to read a story like The Galaxy Boys and the Sphere; we can't know his tastes, because, as pointed out above, he has not reviewed any other literature, on Amazon.com at least. Finally, if HSLee is to call a work amateurish, perhaps he should spell amateurish correctly and not as he did, 'amaeurish'. I look forward to reading this book, when it arrives, and encourage all others to seek a way to form their own opinion. The only way to do that, in my opinion, is to read the book, if it appears to be something in which you are interested.
Is Sally Withers(reviwer below mine) = the author, Andrew Steele? or his publisher?
First, you pointed out that I misspelled the word, Amateurish, I did not see the error as it was in the title blank but corrected it, thank you.
Now, your turn, you typed, Charles Rose to be a tallented architect. HAHA. And, your writing is no better than me. So, who is lecturing whom?
This person who left a very aggressive comment in my first review of this book seems to know when and where the books were published in USA or UK with given dates. And, that very person claims he(oops, she) also knows Charlie Rose, the local Boston Architect, the book of whom I left a review on Amazon.com quite a while ago. Then he/she definitely went over my other reviews to figure out what I buy and who I am. Wow, that is bullying. Check his comment(false accusation) in my review for Charles Rose Architect(paperback) to see it yourself. Sally Withers must be from Boston, not from Northwest as she says.
And, Sally Withers, now the second reviewer of this book(the Galaxy..) left a 5/5 rating describing the book as if she is either a child with a extensive vocabulary skill, rather close to the words the author uses in his book and the style.
If she was a genuine parent, you know her review doesn't sound right but it rather sounds like the abstract of the whole book. How strange!
If Sally Withers works for the publishing houses or the author, his/her rating should be invalidated, faking the company's promotion as a positive 5/5 review from a buyer. Or, if Sally Withers is indeed the actual author, you don't have any decency to leave any room for the readers to judge. What kind of person are you to pretentiously leave the 5 star feedback to your own work?
Coincidentally, the third person, Nancy Harter, is also from WA; Sally Withers herself is from Northwest and so is the author!!! And the both the second and the third reviewers do not have any other reviews on amazon.com. They created their user name to promote the book.
Even Nancy Harter wrote the book review way before me. Why didn't you accuse her of not reading the book and writing a review with the same accusation toward me, which is false? Isn't that because they both were written to promote the book? a Nice try!!! And, thanks for allowing me to track you all down because of your own trick to frame my genuine reviews.
On the other hands, I have a great history in writing reviews over many years, yes, mostly on small gadgets and electronics, books(amazon.com knows) and toys for my new nephew and nieces in recent years. So, whose opinion is more credible, Mr. Author?
...My conclusion, Sally Withers, Nancy Harter are Andrew Steele, the author of this book, for simply showing that level of aggression and disclosing the detailed release dates and where the books are sold in the comments in my review(please check it out and judge yourself) but I still cannot tell how Sally(the author?) knows that particular architect in Boston, or is she/he simply lying to invalidate my book review? If Sally Withers is not Andrew Steele, are you the author's wife or the publisher's wife?
You really started a very ugly game and only showed me a mean, lying,controlling personality. Who are you really? Shouldn't you have a good heart to write a children's book?
Whoever you are, don't you bully a genuine review! Why can't you accept that the kid did not like how the book reads? Stop this mean act! This is getting too ridiculous.
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Mental Disorder/Illness Opposition to Parental Alienation Syndrome – Part 1
When I first discovered the term of Parental Alienation Syndrome, I thought that everyone was in agreement that it was valid since proof of alienating tactics can be seen in parents that train children to hate, and vilify the other parent.
Isn’t it obvious that anyone who does this is mentally ill? To judges, attorneys and parents everyone seems to agree, a parent that does this to a child is an abuser. Since the vast majority of women have sole custody, most of the abusers are women. But Parental Alienationn is a gender-neutral sickness, because I have friends that are women that are alienated from the children. By the dads.
Further reading showed that Parental Alienation Syndrome is generated and perpetuated by an axis of disorders listed in the current DSM book. These include paranoia, histrionic, and borderline disorders. There are a few more that can be added to this disorder, but I have read that these are the core disorders that make up this syndrome.
The American Psychological Association uses a test, shortnamed the MMPI-II test that can actually indicate any of the above mentioned disorder exist. Collectively and through actions by the abusive parent, this makes up Parental Alienation Syndrome.
By itself, the test does not indicate mental illness.
But answers to the test point to actions and activities that mentally ill persons see as OK. Denial, lying, slander, libel, self-medicating, etc. are OK with these folk since to them, the end justifies the means. Sociopathic behavior is fine and dandy, with Parental alienators.
For dozens of children’s and parent’s rights activists, a group of “Anon…..s.” or members of the Pig Pen as we call them spend their days attacking fathers and children through lies and slander. They also attack women from time to time, so women are “abusers,” too.
They have also been creating fake IDs on Facebook, and joining father’s groups to stalk them there. Just recently, a person known as “Randi James” (not real name, obviously) was de-friend-ed by dozens of men (and a few women) when she spewed her bittternes against fathers in a comment thread on Facebook.
If you read some of the hatred that comes from their hate websites you can see why they lost their kids and
1.Denial – Everyone else to blame for their problems. They are “victims” or “battered women”.
2.Paranoia – Most alienates are paranoid and hide while they lie. they imagine they are being stalked.
3.Lying – See 1, also they will say anything to win in family court, especially false allegations of abuse, etc. Besides lying in court, they when they blog, or write or when they talk to you.
4.Hate – See, 1 2.3. above.
There are some websites that glorify in blaming others for “their problems”. Primarily being no one believes them. Either they were “battered” women, or married to “abusers” or the children are now in the hands of “abusers”.
You will also find vicious attacks on Dr. Richard Gardner (he is dead, it is OK to attack a dead person.) All the stuff about Dr. Garnder is made up. Attacks on fathers, activists for children, etc. are their primary targets. They go after live dads, too, but never with their own names, since they fear libel and slander laws.
Despite the fact that women are playing on their “home field” in Family Court, these women of the “pig pen” lost a fight that bookies had them winning.
Why is this? See the list above. Nuff said. Part 2 to come.
When I first discovered the term of Parental Alienation Syndrome, I thought that everyone was in agreement that it was valid since proof of alienating tactics can be seen in parents that train children to hate, and vilify the other parent.
Isn’t it obvious that anyone who does this is mentally ill? To judges, attorneys and parents everyone seems to agree, a parent that does this to a child is an abuser. Since the vast majority of women have sole custody, most of the abusers are women. But Parental Alienationn is a gender-neutral sickness, because I have friends that are women that are alienated from the children. By the dads.
Further reading showed that Parental Alienation Syndrome is generated and perpetuated by an axis of disorders listed in the current DSM book. These include paranoia, histrionic, and borderline disorders. There are a few more that can be added to this disorder, but I have read that these are the core disorders that make up this syndrome.
The American Psychological Association uses a test, shortnamed the MMPI-II test that can actually indicate any of the above mentioned disorder exist. Collectively and through actions by the abusive parent, this makes up Parental Alienation Syndrome.
By itself, the test does not indicate mental illness.
But answers to the test point to actions and activities that mentally ill persons see as OK. Denial, lying, slander, libel, self-medicating, etc. are OK with these folk since to them, the end justifies the means. Sociopathic behavior is fine and dandy, with Parental alienators.Okay I must ask, how are we lying, slandering, comitting libel, self-medicating, and in denial as well? If we lie, then the test would be useless as all the answers would be lies. I must also ask how we commit slander? Is this against you or some unnamed person? And you know this how? The definition of slander is utilizing the spoken word to utter untruths about someone which causes him or her harm. You are not anywhere close to me geographically to know whether I say anything and whether those statements are true or not. Also the person (either you or Mr. Mystery) would have to prove that my actions have caused irreperable harm to you or the mysterious Mr. Mystery. You would also need to prove that this harm was not caused by something you did yourself. You court record speaks for itself Markie poo. 'Nuff said.
For dozens of children’s and parent’s rights activists, a group of “Anon…..s.” or members of the Pig Pen as we call them spend their days attacking fathers and children through lies and slander. They also attack women from time to time, so women are “abusers,” too.
They have also been creating fake IDs on Facebook, and joining father’s groups to stalk them there. Just recently, a person known as “Randi James” (not real name, obviously) was de-friend-ed by dozens of men (and a few women) when she spewed her bittternes against fathers in a comment thread on Facebook.
If you read some of the hatred that comes from their hate websites you can see why they lost their kids and
1.Denial – Everyone else to blame for their problems. They are “victims” or “battered women”.
2.Paranoia – Most alienates are paranoid and hide while they lie. they imagine they are being stalked.
3.Lying – See 1, also they will say anything to win in family court, especially false allegations of abuse, etc. Besides lying in court, they when they blog, or write or when they talk to you.
4.Hate – See, 1 2.3. above.
There are some websites that glorify in blaming others for “their problems”. Primarily being no one believes them. Either they were “battered” women, or married to “abusers” or the children are now in the hands of “abusers”.
You will also find vicious attacks on Dr. Richard Gardner (he is dead, it is OK to attack a dead person.) All the stuff about Dr. Garnder is made up. Attacks on fathers, activists for children, etc. are their primary targets. They go after live dads, too, but never with their own names, since they fear libel and slander laws.
Despite the fact that women are playing on their “home field” in Family Court, these women of the “pig pen” lost a fight that bookies had them winning.
Why is this? See the list above. Nuff said. Part 2 to come.
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http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=4445#comment-1142126
I think a phone time limit should be imposed. My husband's ex would call his sons morning, noon, and night when they were with us every other weekend and spend at least 10-15 minutes with each one on the phone. It was evident by their answers what she was asking. What did you have for breakfast, dinner, etc. I just wanted to check and make sure you were safe, etc. It interrupted the father/son bonding time and their moods would also change. I have seen the divorce/custody from both sides since I am also divorced with children. It is impossible for a parent to stay connected with only every other week visitation, especially if it is constantly interrupted by the other parent. Many people disagree vehemently with me but every other week is the ideal. The children are able to interact with both parents by having alone time. Rules should remain consistent between the houses and open communication is key. The children have a right to two parents and excuse the language but the parents need to just suck it up. I do know that in some cases, it would not be good for the health of the child to have that extended amount of time with a parent. There are always exceptions.
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Many father’s and families rights activists hear the term protective parents used by those parents who make false allegations in court all the time.
Court Judges, Commissioners, Attorneys and Psychologists KNOW that what you say about the other parent is what you are saying about your own CHILD. Children know this intuitively. If children know you hate mom or dad, then your children know you hate them. After all, they are half the other parent. Children are not stupid, but one wonders about “Protective parents.”
It is time to set the record straight.
Real Protective Parents
1. Never make allegations against the other parent in court, and NEVER make them in the presence of their children.
2. Never refer to themselves as protective parents. It is a code word, listed below.
3. Support efforts to have Parental Alienation recognized by courts and the American Psychological Association, and never keep a child away from the other.
4. Never refer to their ex-spouse as abuser, drug addict, alcoholic, neither in court, on the Internet, and NEVER before their children.
5. Encourage the children to see the other parent, actively support the children’s involvement with the other parent.
6. Cooperate with the other parent to raise the children through co-parenting.
7. Never use a restraining order against the other parent as a sword, instead only obtain one as a shield for themselves alone.
The term protective parent is code word that non-custodial mothers groups invented after losing their children in family court action when they violated one of the basic cannons recognized by family court as be a fit parent.
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Separation, Divorce and Parental Alienation Syndrome – Reprint
In this article you write:
For those who missed this original article, I have reprinted it here. When it first appeared in Pyschology Today Online, the hate-children organization that actively encourages hate-speech against men, Anonymums and the Members of the Pig Pen, (as they are known to children and protective parenting advocates) began spamming the site with their lies about children and divorce, particularly Parental Alienation and Parental Alienation Syndrome.
Real Protective Parents Never Call Themselves “Protective Parents”
The title of this blog explains it all, and your second item also does an excellent job of explaining this:
2. Never refer to themselves as protective parents. It is a code word, listed below.
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Of course, for children’s and family advocates, the tactics of the hate-speech encouraged by Anonymums, is well-known. Most of the followers of these hate-sites are women that lost their children because of false allegations of abuse. Instead of placing these women in jail, most were placed on supervised visitations because of flight risk to the children.
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This is what the website has to say about the buzzy panda:
PAAO is proud to announce the launch of our mascot Panda Abuzz!
Panda Abuzz is the hard work and creation of Donna Ingold (Abuzz's mom!), Sarvy Emo, and Bronwyn Coveney (our brilliant cartoonist). Together, along with the input of many adult alienated children and professionals, they have created Abuzz, who will be appearing in cartoon strips very shortly, as well as stand alone cartoon posters.
Abuzz's job is to educate the public and parents about how some adult behaviors are harmful to children. He will in effect be an extension of the child, expressing and voicing what the child can not, in order to make parents understand how they are harming their own children by their Parental Alienation behaviors.
Panda Abuzz is unique in that he will bring light to how damaging and confusing PA is to children, while being passed from child to child inorder to help multitude of parents in many cultural, religious or blended family dynamics understand and cope for the benefit of their children.
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nothing could be more proof than libelous attacks that members of the “pig pen” cult of followers that attack fathers only, and labels all mother and children as “battered” and the fathers as “abusive”.
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Russ McNeill, on November 21st, 2009 at 12:18 am Said:
I love how this forum cuts what they don’t like.
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Steve Gill, on November 20th, 2009 at 8:32 pm Said:
Wow. These false accusers really are becoming obsessive now. A sure sign of fear… and not of being physically attacked, but rather of being exposed for being the frauds that they are.
Brian Says:
November 20th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Funny thing about when Mom tries to make Dad look bad to the kids......it only works until Mom is exposed when Dad comes through in a big way on something, like taking the child to something that they asked for and were denied by Mom.
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A clear case of Libel from one of the members of the "pig pen"
" Lorraine Tipton is a concerned and caring mother who has tried for the past
three years to obey a court order even though it meant forcing her daughter to
go and stay with her sexually, and otherwise, abusive father. Michaela (now 11
yrs old) says that she is absolutely terrified of going to her father%u2019s,
that she is not safe with him, and now insists that she simply can and will not
go. Lorraine has spoken with her daughter, but can no longer find it within
herself to force her daughter to willingly accept further abuse. "
From the below link:
http://familycourtcrisis.wordpress.com/2009/11/13/ptarget-pa-hrefhttpwwwthepetit\
ionsitecom217petitionforlorrainetiptonandmichaelahttpwwwthepetitionsitecom217pet\
itionforlorrainetiptonandmichaelaa-p5000-psponsored-pa-hrefhttpwwwthepetitionsit\
ecomfeedba/
For those who doubt that Parental Alienation Syndrome is a pattern of
denigration of one parent by another, in order to alienate a child from the
other parent, nothing could be more proof than libelous attacks that members of
the "pig pen" cult of followers that attack fathers only, and labels all mother
and children as "battered" and the fathers as "abusive".
Are these "protective parents" ?? No one buys their "victim" status anymore.
Judges know that parents who deny children the right to see the other parent are
the real "abusers."
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antimisandry.com - View Single Post - Amanda Worried about Rise of MRA's
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Got to love this bit:
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for abusers to get automatic joint custody of their children
Well, she's a feminist so obviously in her mind 'father' and 'abuser' are interchangeable terms.
If I met that woman she would die quickly.
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Hello,
I have a question for you all out there in the Fathers Rights.
Other day I was talking to my Ol’ Buddy Stan, and I ask him this question.
And I will ask it to all of you and see if we come up with the same answers that I got from a lot of folks.
You know we live in the Political World of every type if rights for special interest groups, I mean at times I want to throw up.
You know that the Gays’ and Lesbians’ Groups are demanding rights that are above the Rights of God and once they have those rights they are demanding more and more.
And if you do anything like speak your mind against these special rights then you are none as a Begat, Races, Homophobe, Anti Gay and god knows what else they can come up with.
Well the questions is this: What if a Gay Man goes out and get a Straight Woman pregnant, and she turns him into the Child Support Recovery Services, and they go after this Gay Man, Is that not a Hate Crime? Because they are singling him out for child support and being gay he can’t be held accountable for that.
I mean that Congress has made it where these people are an Endangered Spices and if you do anything against them then you can be held accountable by the Federal Courts. And looking at it this way, is going after them a Hate Crime?
I would like to know what your thoughts are about this.
Jimmy
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Jimmy Lehew (jimmylehew@yahoo.com) says:
Hello,
I wanted to tell you about what happen to me the other day.
As fathers we all know that they DHR, DHS, and ORS is just another form of a Legalization of Gestapo that has taken our children from us, for Money and Power from the Fathers.
But due to the many lies that were told by me by my case worker at ORS and I could never get the truth from them. I call a so call friend of mine that works for the Child Support Service in Salem Oregon .
And due to the point that I will have them paid off here next month and I wanted to see if I could pay the State of Oregon for a case in Missouri , and knowing that my associate has some of the same political view points that I have I call her to get the low down on this.
Well as many of you know that once I pay this off I’m moving to Brazil and will not come back only when my Dad pass on.
But through the conversation something was ask of me about getting my passport release, and I made the remark that yes Jan, 2010 I’m a Brazilian and she ask me why and I went through all the Bullshit that the Courts and Child support services has put my kids through and I had enough of the shit watching the country that I fought for going to hell from Special Interest Groups.
And she laugh and she said that I was the 30th father that had call in saying that once they had there child support paid and they were out of the ream of the Gestapo Hands they were moving to Mexico, Panama, Brazil, and many other places in South America. So I got out the Ol laptop and look up the on Google to see how many men were leaving the USA each year and moving to South America , and do you know what? There is over 300,000 professional men leaving the USA each year for just that reason, and moving to South America . They are tried of the Bullshit and watching their country going to hell for the same reasons.
Have a good one,
Jimmy
