STOP the bullying of Verizon Wireless by known abusers....

The Verizon Foundation has refused our request to remove the false DV
claims on its website: http://foundation.verizon.com/core/domestic.shtml


So beginning on Wednesday, Dec. 14, we will begin a week-long protest at
Verizon stores throughout the country. Put together, this will represent
the largest, most massive protest ever launched by our movement.

All we want you to do is go to a couple of nearby Verizon stores for an
hour and distribute a flyer that will be posted Tuesday evening at
www.saveservices.org .

This is something that persons can do individually or in small groups.

Will you be part of the solution, or just an interested observer? Keep
it simple, have fun, and let's get the job done!

Call up Verizon and let them know they need to stand up to these abusers, pedophiles and bullies.

Captain Courageous at it again

Well well well.....

It seems that my dear old friend Captain Courageous is at it again. Only this time it looks like he cannot read!!! Well coming from someone who has the antiquated belief system of this man and who must take on the role of a super hero when he is anything but SUPER or a HERO, what do we expect? Now you night ask, Petunia what has caused you to stop your cruise around the world to post? Well reading SYG in order to slowly acclimate myself back to the twisted and deluded world of the FReak MRA, I have come across this post from Dear ol' Captain:



Why is this so amazing? Well if you see what the article claims, it is what we alleged "rabid" feminists have been saying all along. Children do better with a male figure but this article also states father or other consistent male role model. Now this is itself is nothing but read on to see what Brian (another 'special' FReak) has to say:



You see they both do not seem to be able to read or comprehend what they have read and they COMPLETELY miss the part that says "other consistent male role model." So the research is as we say. Consistent (which does not mean consistently BAD, it means consistently GOOD) male role model. Someone who is healthy for a child. Someone who does NOT abuse a child. Someone who does NOT abuse the child's mother. Someone who does not iignore court orders (like support orders). So what is Petunia's solution for Brian and Captain Courageous? Welllllllll, maybe one of those good male role models can teach them how to read and comprehend what they have read? That might be a good start......

Batterers 101: Another look at the power and control wheel

We are nearing the end of another year. There have been some victories for battered moms and their children. There have also been many more moms forced into this strange twilight existence known as non-custodial mommy. We made progress and we have been shoved down. I thought now would be a good time to point out that the holidays are the worst time for the victims, especially those victims of the father's rights crowd and their leaders, followers, and assorted cult gang members.



So we have here a lesson in Battering 101. We turn to the Power and Control wheel and focus on two of the wedges. The first is the using "Using Coercion and Threats" wedge and the second is the "Using Isolation" wedge. You may ask why I am going over this with you gentle reader. Many of you know the tactics, it is simply amazing it is not more apparent to others.

Now to connect the dots for you.

I was sent this image (as far as I know it is unaltered and you can check this information by dates and times if you feel so inclined. We have a well-known woman hater, father's rights advocates stating this:

Removing "friends" who associate with and promote a gender-biased (man-hating) unbalanced (disturbed) mothers rights advocate. The rest of us know that this has nothing to do with gender. CD, your hatred is counter-productive to real reform. But thanks for showing your true colors.

and directly below it, this:

I'll give people until Jan. 1 to disassociate from her before I cut them. This is warning #1.

Okay so first we have an "advocate" for "equality" and presumably peace telling people that they MUST remove 'CD' or they will be removed from her friends list. Now to me (forgive me if I am wrong) sounds a lot like isolation to me. IE: You either do not be friends with this person and only with people I deem to be okay, or I will take you off my friends list. So she is now isolating the people on her friends list from being friends with the mysterious 'CD' or they will no longer be allowed the privilege of being her friend.

Can we say COERCION/THREATS and ISOLATION? I wonder if we were to look back at many of the nasty things being said by this "advocate" whether we would indeed find more similarities to the Power and Control wheel? Does she engage in any other activities like this destined to make the P/C list?

Readers your call. Send me pics like this one below and what wedge of the wheel you think she is violating? I can think of another one just from this posting on Facebook alone, but I have had my fun tonight. YOUR TURN!!!!

Teri Stoddard and self reporting staticstics

Now if this were not extremely rich I would be rolling on the floor. And let me tell you, the sight of Mz Pigg rolling on the floor is one to behold. Or so I have been told. Now on to the gist of this post. It seems (from my informant) that Teri is now claiming that women are MORE abusive than men. Any other time it was "AS" abusive as men. Guess you had to up the ante huh Teri? It did not serve YOUR purpose to say as violent, now women must be MORE violent? And people wonder why I have informants (and you cannot chase all of them away Scary Teri) to INFORM me of what is happening in the FReak and FRag world. It is like the Twilight Zone but for SCARY people. You fit in real well Scary Teri.

And it seems that Scary is extremely proud of the fact that she is self-reporting her own stats about how abusive widdle ol' women folk truly are. Scary news flash..... you are a woman too. Well you APPEAR to be a woman. After looking at that nasty foot shot in the DC fountain, one has to truly wonder :-)

On to the screen shot (Thanks A). I have even made it super convenient so you can simply close out the picture and keep this open for commenting.

Update on Rene Netherton and her actions

Well censorship is the name of the game today. First Huffington Post and now Facebook. They will allow abusers free reign, they post ads from pedophile loving Amazon, but when a lawyer threatens to expose a victim of violence, how does Facebook respond? Well I will tell you how. They shut the page down tighter than a drum. They do not even allow anyone to save the information, just BAM! Don't believe Petunia? Well "R" sent me this screen shot from when she signed in today.



I suggested to "R" that she contact the Kansas State Bar and file a complaint as a concerned citizen (Petunia would but sadly I am of the porkine variety and not homo sapien variety so they would not take my complaint). I suggest that my readers do the same. Print out all the screen shots available here, write a very simple letter saying how disgusted you are that a lawyer can create the filth that has been created by this "woman" (and I use that term VERY loosely) and let them know you want to file a complaint.

I caution you however, if you are a battered or formerly battered mother and are not in a safe place to be able to do this, then please consider your own safety first. I am sure Claudine would much rather you be safe than have this lawyer disbarred. There are plenty of us out there. We should be able to get enough to file complaints. If you can do this though, I urge you to act quickly!

Rene Netherton and her blatant hatred of Claudine Dombrowski

Rene you can shut down the blog all you want. We took screen shots of everything that was out there and I am now publishing it for all to see.

Now for everyone to understand we must post the screen shots so they can see for themselves. So we will start with your blogger profile:



Next we move in to your question in blogger/google help files:



Now we have established that you are Rene we can move on to the blog posts (which sorry folks are no longer available but here are the screen shots of the alleged blog posts. This is the first one but it is extremely shrunk so hard to make out. I also zoomed in and took a second screen shot of the same post in order to show the actual wording:





Now we have the second blog post made by Rene:



And the third post:



I am not sure which of these posts is more disturbing. You have here a woman who is a lawyer. But in the first post she publishes information about Claudine which should (whether true or not) be protected under medical confidentiality.

The second post contains more information about Claudine's alleged mental disorder (keep in mind folks that an abuser's biggest tool in his toolbox is to claim the mother is mentally ill or promiscuous or both).

The third post then contains the statement that the blogger is going to reveal Claudine's address to "both of her supporters". Claudine is and has been a participant in the safe at home address program. This is for victims of violence to be able to live in safety and not worry about future violence. Why on earth would a program administered by the state allow Claudine to be a participant if she is indeed lying about the abuse that happened?

There is a Facebook page created in Rene's honor. We ask on behalf of the creator that you join and help Claudine start the complaint process which will ultimately strip Rene Netherton of the privilege to practice law anywhere.

Hat Tip to "R" and thank you for your part in keeping the world safe from abusers and those who would support them.

Warning to ex-wife of Bob Norton from Mass

Calling out to the mother of the children and ex wife of Bob Norton of Mass. Your ex-husband plans to attempt to have you jailed so he may steal your children. Fair warning - you may want to find a father's rights group (aka FReaks) in order to ascertain what his next move may be. Or you could just keep an eye on him here.

My ex refused to turn over the children on Friday for my weekend.

I called police and gently insisted they file charges under 265 (26a) parental kidnapping.

Met with one cop at station and reviewed the law. He committed to file.

Later another, more enlightened cop came to do a safety check of kids. He spent 45 minutes inside the house and talked to the kids etc.

Told her he would be filing charges against her. Still not release of kids.

Last cop I talked to (about 2 months ago when she did same) said he would FORCE kids release from kidnapping. This guy say he “could not imagine how that would work”.

FOUR COPS I DISCUSSED THIS LAW WITH (include one who gave me the ticket for the sign). FOUR TOTALLY DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS!!! CRAZY STUPID!



Long story short they agreed if the kids were not delivered later that night.

They claimed it is a misdemeanor and no arrest. That is not how I read this statute.

I will ask for the maximum fine ($1,000) and 30 days suspended sentence with probation for one year. Any reoccurrence = jail term immediately imposed.

To the ex Mrs. Norton - good luck to you. You are stuck with one of the worst FReaks out there.

How to legally hunt and stalk your ex-wife

Well it seems the FReaks are not done with their stupidity. Now they are passing on an email group instructions on how you can legally stalk your wife and if she goes into hiding in order to be safe from your beating this is what you must do:

Don Mathis wrote:
Bio Dad (and every noncustodial father) needs to know the license plate of the custodial mother's car.
If she moves, he can find out where the car is registered.
There are many other ways to find the mom's new address.

Don, the 14%er

Hmm Don the 14%er..... Did you in fact do this with your ex-wife after she left you? I hope that she is diligent and finds this post. Should be simple since I tag everything. Only be a matter of time and it will be found. Numbnuts.....

Classic Red Herring? Or simple LOGICAL TRUTH?????

A recent article on a well known father's rights blog has this paragraph as a closing statement on a women who has killed her children:

So what these cases show, in addition to the extreme of maternal gatekeeping, is the frank dishonesty and misandry of those hostile to fathers' rights, who cloak themselves in the rhetoric of child protection. It's a classic red herring.

Shall I name all of the FATHERS who have killed not only their children but the ex-wives/girlfriends, wives/girlfriends, mothers, fathers, grandfathers, grandmothers, aunts, uncles, family friends, FAMILY COURT JUDGES, and even innocent bystanders? All because they could no longer be in CONTROL (which by the way is the biggest red flag for an abusive personality)? Should we start with Darren Mack? How about Bruce Pardo? I have even more for you just from this year in the USA - SEVENTY SIX (YES 76!!!!!) DADS WHO HAVE KILLED THE CHILDREN ALL BECAUSE THEY REFUSED TO ALLOW MOTHERS TO HAVE CUSTODY OF THE CHILDREN - OR SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY REFUSED TO GIVE UP THAT PRECIOUS COMMODITY CONTROL!!!!!

76 Killer Dads: Fathers who ended their children's lives in situations involving child custody, visitation, and/or child support (USA)

ALABAMA

Franklin County

Father: PAUL GONZALEZ
Victim(s): Andrea Gonzalez (5 years)
Date of Death: Reported missing in Nov. 1993. Body never recovered.
Custodial father eventually pleads guilty to manslaughter. Stepmother charged with child abuse.

Jefferson County

Father: CORY RICE
Victim(s): Janiya Nicole Hale (1 year)
Date of Death: July 2009
Father, a registered sex offender, is charged with murder. Daughter died during overnight visitation.

ARIZONA

Cococino County

Father: RYAN PETERS
Victim(s): Teigan Peters (aka Teigan Brown) (3 years)
Date of Death: June 2009
Daughter killed in murder-suicide during court-ordered visitation . Mother had applied for orders of protection.

Maricopa County

Father: ALLEN CHAMBERS
Victim(s): Mindi Chambers (17 years)
Date of Death: Assumed to have been murdered around the time she went missing in 1982.
Custodial father ALLEN CHAMBERS is now presumed to have murdered Mindi Chambers around the time she went missing. Daughter had reported sexual abuse to the authorities. Not reported as officially missing til 1995.

Father: JEFFREY DUCHANE
Victim(s): Trenay Duchane (12 years)
Date of Death: Nov. 2008
Custodial father and stepmother convicted of murder.

Father: RAUL MOLINA GONZALEZ
Victim(s): Anthony Gonzalez (11 years)
Date of Death: Summer 2005
Father convicted of murdering son during summer visitation.

Father: NUSHAWN CAMPBELL
Victim(s): Son (5 years)
Date of Death: June 2009
Father with sole custody stabs son to death in failed murder-suicide. Mother had been trying to regain custody.

CALIFORNIA

Contra Costa County

Father: ERHAN KAYIK
Victim(s): Volkan Kayik (16 years)
Date of Death: July 2007
Custodial father found guilty in 2009 of strangulation death of son.

El Dorado County

Father: DAVID ELIOTT
Victim(s): Chandler Nash-Eliott (11 years)
Date of Death: Dec. 2009
Father not charged in the "suicide" of son. Father had physical custody, parents had shared custody. Father had extensive history with CPS regarding neglect, abuse, lack of supervision, etc.

Los Angeles County

Father: DAVID HELMS
Victim(s): Lance Helms (2 1/2 years)
Date of Death: 1995
Custodial dad convicted in beating death of son. Father had obtained custody despite extensive history of violence, drug abuse.

Father: CAMERON BROWN
Victim(s): Lauren Sarene Key (4 years)
Date of Death: Nov. 2000
Father scheduled to go to trial for 3rd time for death of daughter. Daughter was allegedly pushed off cliff during visitation in order to avoid child support.

Orange County

Father: GIDEON WALTER OMONDI
Victim(s): Richie Omondi (4 years)
Date of Death: 2006
Father shared custody with the child's mother. Convicted of 1st degree murder in Jan. 2010. Drowned son to avoid child support.

San Bernadino County

Father: JESUS ROMAN FUENTES
Victim(s): Jesus Gabriel Fuentes (4 years)
Date of Death: Feb. 2010
Father crashes car, shoots to death son during visitation. Parents divorced. Father in critical condition from self-inflicted gun shot wound.

Father: STEPHEN CHARLES GARCIA
Victim(s): Wyatt Garcia (9 months)
Date of Death: Jan. 2010
Father kills son during court-ordered visitation. Murder-suicide. Parents never married. Mother had pleaded with 3 judges regarding father's violence, threats.

San Diego County

Father: DENNIS POTTS
Victim(s): Tori Vienneau (22 years), Dean Springtube (10 months)
Date of Death: July 2006
Father is convicted Sept. 2009 in the murders of his former girlfriend and son. Father didn't want to take paternity test, pay child support.

Ventura County

Father: JAMES MULVANEY
Victim(s): Jason Mulvaney (12 years), Jennifer Mulvaney (7 years)
Date of Death: Sept. 2009
Father stabs to death son and daughter in murder-suicide during overnight visitation. Parents had shared custody and were still involved in divorce, custody case.

COLORADO

Arapahoe County

Father: AARON THOMPSON
Victim(s): Aarone Thompson (7 years)
Date of Death: Reported missing in Nov. 2005. Body never recovered.
Father convicted in Sept. 2009 in daughter's murder. Father had custody, as he had abducted the children from mother in Michigan.

Jefferson County

Father: JOSEPH TRUJILLO
Victim(s): Adrian Trujillo (5 months)
Date of Death: Jan. 2010
Father charged in death of infant son. Father had physical custody while mother in military. Father alleged to have left baby alone while father went out drinking for 7 hours. Baby later found dead.

CONNECTICUT

New Haven County

Father: MORRIES D. HILL SR.
Victim(s): Morries Hill Jr. (5 months)
Date of Death: 2008
Father charged in connection with the death of son. Baby died from "severe physical abuse." Infant died in father's home during overnight visitation.

FLORIDA

Colllier County

Father: SAMUEL SEJOUR
Victim(s): Elijay Kye Aliazar (3 months)
Date of Death: Jan. 2009
Father had shared custody with infant's mother. Son died of blunt force trauma to the head during visitation. Father charged w. 2nd-degree murder.

Duval County

Father: JOSI M. HALL
Victim(s): Kyla Hall (1 year)
Date of Death: 2008
Father had sole custody, and had been cleared of previous abuse allegations. Daughter died of blunt force trauma at home.

Hillsborough County

Father: CHAUNCEY ROBINSON
Victim(s): Chavon Robinson (22 months)
Date of Death: Feb. 2008
Father convicted Dec. 2009 of murdering child during visitation.

Jackson County

Father: WESLEY JONATHAN WILLIAMS
Victim(s): Danielle Baker (mother), sons Ahmaad (4 years) and Amarion (1 year), and unrelated infant.
Date of Death: 2005
Father allegedly committed quadruple murder because he was angry about child support.

Lake County

Father: RICHARD L. ADAMS
Victim(s): Kayla McKean (6 years)
Date of Death: 1998
Custodial father beat daughter to death. Had been subject of multiple CPS investigations.

Orange County

Father: ROOSEVELT BRADLEY II
Victim(s): Roosevelt Bradley III (8 months)
Date of Death: Aug. 2009
Father arrested for murder of infant during visitation.

Osceola County

Father: MELVIN ORTIZ
Victim(s): Unnamed Son (5 years)
Date of Death: July 2009
Son beaten to death while visiting father, stepmother.

Palm Beach County

Father: TONY CAMACHO
Victim(s): Crystal Camacho (8 years), Nelson Camacho (10 years)
Date of Death: Dec. 2006
Father and mother were finalizing divorce. During Christmas visitation, father stabbed daughter, then killed her and brother Nelson Camacho (10 years) in arson murder-suicide. Mother had unsucessfully petitioned for protection.

Pasco County

Father: THOMAS LUDWIG
Victim(s): Diella Ludwig (2 months)
Date of Death: Dec. 2008
CPS granted father THOMAS LUDWIG custody of infant twins. Father charged with 1st-degree murder in Diella's death.

Volusia County

Father: MICHAEL REESE
Victim(s): Jeremiah Reese (14 years)
Date of Death: Sept. 2009
Jeremiah Reese died of "accidental overdose" at the home of his custodial father. Father had long history of abuse, neglect with CPS.

IDAHO

Ada County

Father: NICHOLAS BACON
Victim(s): Bekm Bacon (8 months)
Date of Death: Feb. 2010
Father shot to death son in murder-suicide. Parents going through divorce, but had joint custody. Infant killed during visitation with father.

Jerome County

Father: ROBERT ARAGON
Victim(s): Sage Aragon (11 years)
Date of Death: Dec. 2008
Custodial father acquitted of involuntary manslaughter in hypothermia death of daughter. Father had told to her to walk to mother's home during blizzard.

Twin Falls County

Father: JIM NICE JR.
Victim(s): Justin Nice (6 years), Spencer Nice (6 years), Raquel Anna Nice (2 years)
Date of Death: 2005
Father murdered children with rat poison during court-ordered visitation.

ILLINOIS

McClean County

Father: MICHAEL CONNELLY
Victim(s): Duncan Connelly (6 years) and Jack Connelly (4 years)
Date of Death: March 2009
Father killed sons in murder-suicide during court-ordered visitation. Mother had extensive involvment with the courts trying to prevent contact with father.

Will County

Father: CHIDI ESI
Victim(s): Nathan Esi (19 months)
Date of Death: Oct. 2009
Father accused of drowning son during visitation.

INDIANA

Green County

Father: RONALD A. BOHANNON
Victim(s): Travis Bohannon (14 months)
Date of Death: Aug. 2009
Father separated from wife. Son "accidently" shot during visitation. Father convicted of reckless homicide Jan. 2010.

Lake County

Father: CORDELL RICHARDSON
Victim(s): Eboni Richardson (19 months)
Date of Death: Aug. 2009
Father shot daughter during visitation. Didn't want child's mother to do moveaway.

Father: TERRY BETHEL (aka Terry Noel)
Victim(s): Josiah Shaw (13 months)
Date of Death: Jan. 2008
Father allegedly arranged to have visitation with son, then shot him to death to avoid child support.

KANSAS

Shawnee County

Father: JAMES KRAIG KAHLER
Victim(s): Karen Kahler (44 years), Emily Kahler (18 years), Lauren Kahler (16 years), Dorothy Wight (89 years)
Date of Death: Nov. 2009
Parents were in the process of divorcing, reportedly "sparring over children."

Sumner County

Father: UNNAMED FATHER
Victim(s): Caden Michael Reemes (4 years)
Date of Death: Aug. 2009
Child asphyxiated at the home of his custodial UNNAMED FATHER.

KENTUCKY

Anderson County

Father: TIMOTHY FRAZIER
Victim(s): Cole Frazier (21 months)
Date of Death: May 2009
Father obtained custody with police assistance through fraudulent EPO. Shot son to death in murder-suicide. Mother suing police, city.

Clark County

Father: PATRICK WATKINS
Victim(s): Michaela Watkins (10 years)
Date of Death: 2007
Custodial father, stepmother found guilty of murder in girl's death. Girl removed from mother's home by social workers.

LOUISIANA

Pointe Coupee Parish

Father: AARON BOWMAN
Victim(s): Aaron Bowman, Jr.
Date of Death: Nov. 2009
Father had "temporary" custody of son, 2-year-old daughter when son beaten to death. Father charged with 1st-degree murder.

MAINE

Kennebec County

Father: SHANE SOUCY
Victim(s): Connor Soucy (4 months)
Date of Death: Aug. 2009
Infant became "unresponsive" during visit with father. Later died at hospital.


MARYLAND

Baltimore County

Father: MARK CASTILLO
Victim(s): Anthony Castillo (6 years), Austin Castillo (4 years), Athena Castillo (2 years)
Date of Death: Mar. 2008
Mother had tried to stop father from having access, but blocked by courts. Children murdered during court-ordered visitation.

Father: STEPHEN NELSON
Victim(s) Turner Jordan Nelson (3 years)
Date of Death: Feb. 2008
Murdered by father by being thrown off bridge. Father and mother had argued in court over custody.

MASSACHUSETTS

Bristol County

Father: KRISTOPHER GRIFFIN
Victim(s): Kaitlyn (6 years)
Date of Death: July 2009
Father allegedly murdered daughter because he was concerned about possible moveaway.

Worcester County

Father: LESLIE G. SHULER
Victim(s): Nathaniel Turner (7 years)
Date of Death: June 2009
Father charged with beating death of son. Took place during father's summer visitation.

MICHIGAN

Oakland County

Father: JOHN KELLY
Victim(s): unnamed infant (13 weeks)
Date of Death: Feb. 2010
Infant died during unsupervised visitation.

St. Clair County

Father: JOE GALVAN
Victim(s): Prhaze Galvan (3 years)
Date of Death: Jan. 2010
Child died of blunt force trauma in home of father, stepmother. Both face murder charges.

MISSOURI

Cass/Jackson Counties

Father: MARK GUENTHER
Victim(s): Elizabeth Guenther (18 months)
Date of Death: Feb. 2010
Father to be charged with 2nd degree murder. Baby suffered fatal skull fracture during father's weekend visitation.

Father: DAN PORTER
Victim(s): Sam Porter (7 years), Lindsey Porter (8 years)
Date of Death: June 2004
Father murdered children during court-ordered visitation. Had extensive history of domestic violence.

St. Louis County

Father: Nathaniel Robinson
Victim(s): Desmon Valenzuela (3 years)
Date of Death: 2007
Father obtained custody 1 month before child's beating death. Convicted of involuntary manslaughter in Jan 2010.

NEVADA

Clark County

Father: BRANDON TODD ARDUINO
Victim(s): Brandon Christopher Arduino-Boggs (13 years)
Date of Death: Sept. 2009
Son killed in auto homicide case where father DUI. Parents had been in lengthy child custody case.

Father: ALEX KOPYSTENSKI
Victim(s): Giovani Kopystenski (5 years)
Date of Death: July 2009
Custodial father. Autistic son "accidentally" shoots himself in head after finding gun in father's car.

NEW JERSEY

Passaic County

Father: EDELMIRO GONZALEZ
Victim(s): Adrian Gonzalez (7 years)
Date of Death: Nov. 2009
Father in "bitter custody dispute" with "estranged" wife. 7-year-old son shot to death, 11-year-old son, wife, in critical condition.

NEW MEXICO

Bernalillo County

Father: RICHARD ROBERT SANCHEZ
Victim(s): Richard Jr, Daniel, and Christopher Sanchez
Date of Death: Aug. 2001
Father "went missing" with sons during custodial visit. Bodies recovered, identified in July 2009.
NEW YORK

Erie County

Father: JAMES E. KENT
Victim(s); Joshua Kent (3 years)
Date of Death: Mar. 2005
Sole custody father beats son to death.

Genessee County

Father: UNNAMED FATHER
Victim(s); Marcus Peters (6 years)
Date of Death: Oct. 2009
Child dies during weekend visitation with father, but authorities say death not "suspicious."

Monroe County

Father: MARK RESCH
Victim(s): Hunter Resch (7 years)
Date of Death: Feb. 2010
Child shot to death in murder-suicide during court-ordered visitation. Father had history of DV, mother had filed two orders of protection.

Orange County

Father: CHRISTOPHER RHODES
Victim(s): Jerica Rhodes (7 years)
Date of Death: Jan. 2005
Sole custody father convicted in daughter's stabbing death. Had extensive history of DV.

NORTH CAROLINA

Edgecombe County

Father: BRICE MCMILLAN
Victim(s): Tyler Brice (13 years)
Date of Death: June 2008
Custodial father, stepmother convicted of 2nd-degree murder. Boy tied to tree, died of dehydration, heat exhaustion.

OKLAHOMA

Bryan County

Father: WOLF ABEL
Victim(s): Cheyenne Wolf (11 years)
Date of Death: April 2008
Custodial father, stepmother charged in girl's death.

OHIO

Cuyahoga County

Father: ANTHONY JOHNSON
Victim(s) Anthony Johnson Jr.
Date of Death: Aug. 2009
Father accused of beating child to death during visitation.

Franklin/Delaware Counties

Father: DANIEL J. DOBSON
Victims: Nicole Dobson (15 years), Sarah Dobson (11 years)
Date of Death: Dec. 2009
Father had physical placement of 15-year-old daughter. "Shared parenting" plan in place with divorced mother. Girls shot to death in murder-suicide.

Stark County

Father: JAMES MAMMONE III
Victim(s): Macy Mammone (5 years), James Mammone (3 years), Margaret Eakin (57 years)
Date of Death: June 2009
Divorced father convicted of stabbing children, beating to death former mother-in-law in Jan. 2010.

OREGON

Clackamas County

Father: DONALD L. COCKRELL
Victim(s) Alexis Pounder (3 years)
Date of Death: Jan. 2010
Father, mother had shared custody. Father, girlfriend charged with beating, starving girl to death. Mother allegedly blocked from seeing child by father.

PENNSYLVANIA

Philadelphia County

Father: DOMINGO "ANIBAL" FERREIRA
Victim(s) Charlenni Ferreira (10 years)
Date of Death: Oct. 2009
Girl died from abuse in the home of her custodial father, stepmother. Father later (allegedly) committed suicide in jail cell.

SOUTH CAROLINA

Anderson County

Father: JAMES T. DICKERSON
Victim(s): Jeremy Dickerson (7 years)
Date of Death: July 2009
Father with "full custody" charged in son's beating death.

Chester County

Father: UNNAMED FATHER
Victim(s): Xymerra Evans (11 months)
Date of Death: Sept. 2009
Child sexually abused, beaten during visitation with father. Later died at hospital.

TENNESSEE

Shelby County

Father: CURTIS LEE MORRIS, JR.
Victim(s): Isaiah Snipes (16 months)
Date of Death: Nov. 2009
Father had just obtained custody of son, 3-year-old daughter in Sept. 2009. Father charged w. 2nd-degree murder.

Warren County

Father: MITCHELL STONE
Victim(s): Kayndace (3 years), Akeelia (1 year)
Date of Death: May 2009
Custodial father, stepmother charged in deaths of two girls.

TEXAS

Denton County

Father: DUKE WATROUS
Victim(s): Ashley Watrous (10 years)
Date of Death: Dec. 2009
Custodial father charged in shooting death.

Gaines/Yoakum Counties

Father: MARIO ROMERO
Victim(s): Mitchell Romero (3 years), unnamed mother
Date of Death: Oct. - Nov. 2009
Mother reportedly murdered by father during child abduction. Son later killed in car accident.

Jasper County

Father: LEO DESMOREAUX IV
Victim(s): Triston Dobbins (21 months)
Date of Death: Dec. 2007
Boy died of head injuries while visiting father, stepmother. Father on trial for capital murder Jan. 2010.

VIRGINIA

Norfolk County

Father: JOSHUA SAWYER
Victim(s): Carly Sawyer (5 years)
Date of Death: June 2009
Custodial father, stepmother charged with 2nd-degree murder. Mother lost custody during divorce, father denied mother contact.

WEST VIRGINIA

Mercer County

Father: RONALD HOLCOMB
Victim(s): Brooklyn Holcomb (5 years)
Date of Death: Jan. 2007
Custodial father convicted of 2nd-degree murder in daughter's death. Mother had lost custody the year before after applying for child support.

Or why do we not just read the letter from Stephen Garcia - killer of little Wyatt? His mother's request for an RO was denied - just like these pigs want with all women (so men can keep CONTROL) and Garcia killed this precious child. He HAD parenting time with the child. It was not good enough for him - just as it is with thousands and thousands of other men (I will not call them fathers, because a father would NOT kill their own child). Read Garcia's last letter below:

To whom it may concern:

If I am Unable to post this on my website, MAKE SURE THIS IS MADE PUBLIC SO EVERYONE CAN READ THIS. RESPECT THIS REQUEST PLEASE. Do NOT chop this up. Make sure everyone can read it in its entirety. There are a lot of messages here everyone needs to read.

“SO THIS IS GOODBYE”

Everyone kept saying give it time. Keep going to court, keep doing what your doing. No body got it. Not even Katie. I didn’t want to fight Katie. I didn’t want shared custody of Wyatt. I wanted my family back. What good is having Wyatt full time, or 50/50 without Katie. I would of had to live with my parents forever, be alone, have Wyatt go back and forth for years to the guy Katie cheated on me with. I would of never been happy. Our son would of never been happy and a major reason, I would of not had my True Love. I did not want to keep fighting her, but I did not want to just give up and give her Wyatt. I did not want Wyatt to have that life. Understand and respect that.


I am so sorry. I led everyone on my side of the family to believe I wouldn’t of done this because I did not want them to know. That whole time we had been going to court and fighting each other was just a delay. I wrote Katie letter after letter, and I had told her everything. There was no point to keep fighting with her if she was not going to choose us. I had been thinking about doing this for months. At first I played with the idea of suicide to force Katie to move back, but that still did not work. Then when I started to find out what she was doing all those months, it was clear this was going to most likely happen. She just wouldn’t come back. Do not blame her, she wanted that life. Our deaths are a lot for her. It will have to suffice as her punishment. But that is not the reason I did it. It was the only way we could be happy without Katie. I did this out of love for our son, to protect him and myself. I am sorry.


We love everyone and we will miss you. We are watching, so live a good life. Do not dwell on what I did, its something you could not fix. Only me and Katie could of fixed it but, if your reading this, she chose not too.
I understand my actions will have devastated a lot of lives but, I could not continue to live the rest of my life in constant pain and watch our sons life be thrown away for lust. You all have a family, I lost mine. Live out your lives happy and hold on to your family, it’s the most important thing in life.

MOMMY AND DADDY:
I love you mom and dad, please find it in your heart to forgive me. Get rid of all my things and live the rest of your lives happy. Stop fighting. You were ok parents, you were there for me, you took care of me, but its not what I needed. I needed a family of my own. My computer is unlocked, on it you will find all my pictures and movies. Also on it is this everything Katie did to me, if the cops are wondering why I did it or if they need the computer for any reason. My digital movie player will be in the white truck, on it is a copy of the pictures and movies from my computer. I wanted to look one last time at what I once had. Sell all my things or give them to Sean. Do not sell the guns though, give those to him. He and the boys can go hunting some day or teach them to shoot. The rest you should just sell or keep for yourselves. Make sure Sean gets those guns, knives, snowboarding gear too and maybe even the 50cc bike, unless you want to just sell it. Do not keep my car or give it away. It requires a lot of know how and tuning. Just sell it. Ask Chris for info on it, he knows what’s in it. You should be able to get at least 4 - 6k for it. Simba says hi.

SEAN, BROTHER,
I haven’t seen you in forever, I wish we had more time. I wish you could of seen us, and I’m sorry. It’s just too much for my heart and mind to take, I can’t wait any longer. We love you. You have a great family, hold on to that. You really do not know what you have until its gone. Raise your son better than what we had growing up. Raise him with a whole family. Love him everyday and be there for him everyday. You have no idea what a blessing it is to be able to hold him everyday. I’m Sorry Brother, I Love You. We are watching over you. Do not let yourself be torn apart by what I have done, your family needs you to stay strong.

KELLIE:
Thanks for talking to me and for writing me. Thanks for your messages and motivation. I am sorry but it was not enough. I needed my family back. Work out any problems you and my brother run into. We are f------ watching you guys, YOU RAISE THAT BOY WELL AND DO IT TOGETHER, this is one of my wishes. Respect it. If you hit a wall, F--------- BREAK IT DOWN. Seek outside help, do not let your ego’s get in the way like me and Katie did. Seek outside help if you must and STAY TOGETHER. A WHOLE LOVING FAMILY IS IMPORTANT. NOAH needs both of you everyday. LOVE HIM SEAN. Kellie, NEVER do to my bro what Katie did to me. I will turn in my f--------- grave. I will find a way to kill you if you do…. Sorry, I love you.

To the rest of my family:
I’m not going to single anyone out. There is too much family to list. You all are great in more than one way. You have all been so loving and helpful in my life. I’m sorry, I know this will be hard. I was not being selfish, I tried but Katie would not have it. Everyone has a family of there own but me. Just be with your family and be happy for what you have. We love all of you, I’m sorry I hurt you like this. Please pray for Wyatt. He gets a easy life. He gets to be safe in heaven. Be happy for him. We will watch over you, pray for us both.

Chris + Ashlie, Tyler + Austin:
We love you guys. Thanks for being our friend. Please be happy together forever. You have a beautiful family, hold on to that for life. You guys are blessed with so many things. I’m sorry for any trouble I caused in the past. Do not be upset or sad or mad at yourself. You were my friends but do not think you could of talked me out of this. Live out your days together and work past any problems you have. Family is the most important thing in life, HOLD ON TO IT. Be happy for us, we can’t be happy without Katie. This way me and Wyatt can be happy too, respect that please. I am sorry for my deception. I know your going to be disgusted by what I have done. I’m sorry but my heart and mind cannot take it anymore. I will not sit by and watch my sons life be torn apart for lust. Please let everyone else know we love them and miss them too.

TO KATIE’S FAMILY, FRIENDS...
I WILL SEE YOU IN F-------- HELL. I HELD THE GUN, YOU PULLED THE TRIGGER. I CRIED FOR YOUR HELP. I TOLD YOU THIS WOULD HAPPEN. I TOLD YOU TO HELP ME GET MY FAMILY BACK BUT YOU LAUGHED AT ME. YOU HATE ME? OK WELL TELL ME WHEN YOU JOIN ME IN HELL. YOU HELPED CAUSE THE DEATH OF WYATT. THE BLOOD IS ON YOUR HANDS. I DID THIS OUT OF LOVE AND TO PROTECT MYSELF AND MY SON, BUT FOR YOU GUYS, IT IS YOUR PUNISHMENT. IT IS HATE. I F--------- HOPE IT EATS AT YOU FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIVES FOR DOING THIS TO ME AND WYATT. F----- YOU ALL.

Shawn + Jessie, Fish and Thunder:
Thanks for being friends with me when you were here. I know I was a weird guy but thanks for chillin with me from time to time. I had fun with the both of you. Thanks for giving me many many happy memories. I am Sorry I betrayed you like this Shawn, I know you will never agree with it. Your logic is damn strong brother, but my heart and mind were NOT. Same with you guys, stick out any trouble in life. Over come and stick together. Take care of each other forever. Love each other everyday. In time if you have a kid, dear god please stay together and work out anything and give him, her or them a great life. Maybe you can have a Wyatt. That’s up to you and Katie. You have my blessing though. Just love them or love each other. Again, You do not know what you have until its gone… When it is gone, you may never get it back. Don’t take that path. Go through the tree’s, make trails. It’s always better. We love you both. We will watch over you too.

Dakota:
I’m so sorry I wasn’t more nice too you. I know I could of played with you more and helped you out more than I did. I’m sorry for that, I did not know how to act at the time. It wasn’t till after you were already gone that I realized what a sweet kid you are. It took major changes in my life to understand how to truly love. I spent 2 ? years of my life around you, even though you got under my skin because I had patience problems, I love you. Wyatt loves you too. I’m sorry you could not grow up with your brother. I know you would of liked that. Me and Wyatt will watch over you Koda. We will always come to be by your side. Just kneel down, pray and we will come to grant you strength in your life ahead. Please forgive me, but your brother is safe now. Understand Dakota, he is in a better place but will always be in your dreams.

**Katie, K80, Babe, My love, my god d--- true love, mommy, ma ma:**
We love you, We are watching over you, We will be by your side, Just ask and we will come. Wyatt is safe now, be happy for him, please.


You already have all your letters. You already know what I have told you. They are posted on the website, you can read them there for the next few years. Also all my text messages are there. You have the CD I gave you with all our pictures of me, you, Wyatt, and Dakota. I am so sorry babe, I love you K80. I told you I needed you but you didn’t listen. I am sorry it took this to prove it. WHY COULDN’T YOU JUST LISTEN TO ME! I know from the deepest part of my soul I could of and would of made you happy for the rest of your life. I will give Rylee Sky Garcia your love. If you have a daughter some day, do not give her that name. It will be disrespectful. She is up here with us. There are new movies of me and Wyatt of our last days on the video camera in the white truck. Also your phone is in the white truck, I needed it to help motivate me to do what is right. Your pix are still on it. A few things of Wyatt from the hospital when he was born, your hair clippings and a Bible will be there also. On the first page of the Bible is a short msg. Keep it, read it, use it, it will keep you strong and going for Dakota. You still have a family to live for. I did not. Also in the truck is your ring. I was going to have Wyatt wear it before we went, but I did not want it to get lost. If you do not want it, bury it with me or Wyatt. Also there is a hand written letter signed by me, in the white truck. It says how I did it and why. That should be it. Make sure you request those items back babe! It is my wish that Katie gets these items back. Please RESPECT THIS REQUEST. Again, we love you Katie. Get on your knees and pray and we will come be by your side whenever you need us. We will always be here watching over you.

Please forgive me for what I have done. I tried to tell you over and over again but you wouldn’t listen!
I’m sorry for not telling you I loved you every day. I’m sorry for not appreciating you more. I’m sorry for not telling you how beautiful you are every day. I’m sorry for cheating on you. I’m sorry for hurting you.
I’m sorry for ** PUNCHING** you. I’m sorry I made the wrong choices. I’m sorry I didn't fight for you. I’m sorry I let you walk out. I’m sorry I didn't listen to you. I’m sorry I didn't support you when you needed it. I’m *NO LONGER* sorry for everything I did to your family. I’m *NO LONGER* sorry for everything I did to your friends. I’m sorry I said bad things about you when I got angry. Most of all I am sorry for not being sorry sooner.
ALSO:
I am sorry I pushed you away so hard you turned into a monster and did something you swore you never would. We are 50/50 on the blame though. You could have told me sooner.
And I am sorry for doing this. I just could not continue to cry everyday. EVERYDAY. I could not take medication to keep me blank and watch our beautiful sons life being torn apart. I could not take my chest hurting non stop almost, for the past 5 months. That is truth. I wanted you back so bad, so long ago, but didn’t know how to tell you the right way. Now….

“its too late”

There are so many things I wish I could of done before I died. There are so many places I wanted to go, so many things I wanted to do. So many things I wanted to do as a father. So many places I wanted to take Katie and Wyatt and even Dakota, so many things I wanted to do with them. I wanted at least one more kid. I wanted a family of my own so bad. I wanted to hold Katie one last time. I wanted to hug her, kiss her and look her in the eyes and tell her how much I loved and needed her, one last time. I wish we could have had Wyatt’s first birthday together. I wish we could have had Wyatt’s first birthday. But none of that was possible without Katie.


I want to be buried with our son or next to our son. DO NOT take this away from me. I love him with all my heart. I love him so much I went the distance to protect him for the disgusting life Katie tried to give him. I want to be next to him FOREVER. Please, its my wish as his father. Pay whatever it costs. I would like to be somewhere near the ocean, PLEASE. I love the mountains and green forests with lakes. It is beautiful and peaceful there but despite what I have told people before, my heart has always been with the SEA. Pick a nice green place, up north if you have to, next to the ocean and lay us to rest. Sell my car, my items, whatever it takes but please give me this wish as a father to be with my son in that beautiful place.


If anyone has a son, you have my blessing to name him Wyatt. It will not be frowned upon or show lack of respect. Just make sure you keep him close, love him everyday and raise him in a WHOLE, loving family. Those are the conditions. Again everyone respect this wish.


I’m sorry. We love all of you. Be with your family. Live out your lives, be happy. Do not dwell on what I have done. Move on with your lives and cherish every minute of it. HOLD AND LOVE YOUR FAMILY! PLEASE ITS MY FINAL WISH.


Please respect all my wishes and everything I have asked for in this letter.



We love all of you, We miss all of you, We are watching over all of you.

Sincerely,
your broken hearted son, brother, friend, boyfriend,

Stephen Charles Garcia 12/21/1984 - 01/31/2010

& OUR son, our precious and beautiful baby boy with a heart of gold:

Wyatt James Arthur Garcia 04/04/2009 - 01/31/2010

He rips into "HIS" Katie - last I looked numbnuts she was a person - not someone to be OWNED. But damn I forgot all of you control freak asshat abusers like to do is control. She found someone who was not a CONTROL FREAK ASSHAT ABUSER like all the other father's rights men and women. That much is apparent. The old "If I can't have you - nobody will". Yeah - we victims live with that everyday in some form or another. Whether it comes from you disfiguring us so bad no other man woulld ever want to look at us, or if it comes in the form of false abuse allegations, or in the form of you taking our child away from us forever, or in any of the many ways you asshat abusers use to further victimize us. One things is plain and simple fact - YOU ARE ALL ASSHAT ABUSERS!!!!

I would tear Garcia to shreds but what would that accomplish? He is dead already so not like it would hurt him. So lets stop these others out there who want to put children in harms way. Lets keep the law in the best interest of the children, protect the true victims of dv (WOMEN AND CHILDREN) and men - you want shelters - BUILD THEM like we did. You want laws to protect you - you already have them. In fact you have been protected for over 200 years (most of you have anyway). Women and children are still not protected.

Challenge to the alleged control freak who wants to give parents like Bruce, Darren, and Stephen control, care and custody of children. Find 76 stories of women killing the children, and many others due to custody and child support court issues. Find me 76 of these who have either committed these crimes or been sentenced to the crimes of killing the child(ren) since the beginning of 2010. Can't find 76. Okay next challenge... Find the volume of cases as presented on Dastardly Dads of the killer men (men killing everyone from their own flesh and blood to innocent bystanders). At last count there were 2,307 stories stemming from June 24, 2009. Granted there are some additional, updated coverage posts - so I will give you 200 for those updated posts - hell I would even go as far as giving 307 - make it an even 2,000 stories of moms killing the children from June 24, 2009 to current date.

YOU ASSHATS CANNOT DO IT BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT THAT MANY MOMS OUT THERE KILLING THE CHILDREN. BECAUSE YOUR CLAIMS ARE FALSE AND YOU IN FACT ARE PRESENTING THE RED HERRING. ASSHATS....

Nine month old dead at father's hands

I normally do not post stories like this as I tend to concentrate on the stupidity of the MRA's more. However I felt this could not be passed along. First here is the link to this tragedy (http://www.hidesertstar.com/articles/2010/02/03/news/doc4b69381ed5e05699313614.txt).

Sunday’s murder-suicide was the culmination of months of threats and online and text rants from Stephen Garcia to Katie Tagle of Yucca Valley and her family.

The mother of a 9-month-old boy, Wyatt, with Garcia, Tagle was never able to secure a restraining order against him for herself or an order for supervised visitations for their son.

“This was preventable. This didn’t have to happen,” Tagle’s mother, Maria Brown said the day after Wyatt’s death.

“The system failed Wyatt. It cost him his life.”

Her family said Garcia abused Tagle throughout their two-year relationship, which ended in August 2009, when, her family said, he punched her in the face, knocking her unconscious.

Tagle brought Wyatt back to her family house in Yucca Valley, but frequently took him to visit Garcia’s parents in Piñon Hills.

Garcia, her family said, did not seem especially interested in Tagle or their son until December 2009, when he discovered she was involved with another man.

“That’s when he wigged out,” Tagle’s sister Andrea Rodriguez of Hesperia said.

In letters on a Web site he set up to chronicle his communications to her and her friends, Garcia cursed at Tagle and told her to return to him.

During one custody exchange with Wyatt, he proposed to her, then knocked her to the ground.

Judge denies first restraining order

On Dec. 15, Tagle asked for an emergency restraining order against Garcia, telling Judge Debra Harris in a Joshua Tree courtroom that Garcia had threatened Wyatt.

“He had sent me text messages before that if his son was around certain people … that he would kill him,” Tagle told the judge, according to transcripts of the hearing.

“And that if I wasn’t where I was supposed to be, he’d find me and kill me.”

“What about the threat to shoot you, where did that occur, to hunt you down and shoot you with a gun?” the judge asked.

“That was in a text message, Tagle replied.

When Harris asked for copies of the text messages, Tagle said she had no way of printing them out and her phone was shut off.

The judge denied the emergency order and set a hearing.

Garcia ‘doesn’t pose a threat’

At that hearing, on Jan. 12, Tagle went before Judge David Mazurek in the Joshua Tree courthouse to show cause for a restraining order.

“…On Dec. 31, we were doing our exchange, and he proposed to me, and I said no. He got angry and stole my phone and pushed me down. I made a police report about that,” Tagle told the judge, according to a transcript.

Garcia told the judge the report was “falsely made up.”

Mazurek denied Tagle the restraining order.

“If I grant the restraining order, how do you think that’s going to help with respect to you two being able to raise Wyatt together or work together to make sure Wyatt grows up happy and healthy?” the judge asked, according to the transcripts.

“He would have both of us still,” Tagle responded.

Asked about an e-mail in which he confessed to hitting Tagle, Garcia told the judge he had slapped her during a fight, but it was Tagle’s fault for “pushing and pushing and pushing until she could get something from me.”

Tagle pointed out she was nine months pregnant when Garcia hit her.

“I kind of get an idea of what’s going on,” Mazurek said.

He denied the restraining order, saying, “I don’t think that Mr. Garcia poses a threat to Ms. Tagle.”

Mazurek went on to suggest Tagle might have ulterior motives for alleging domestic violence.

“I get concerned when there’s a pending child custody and visitation issue and in between that, one party or the other claims that there’s some violence in between. It raises the court’s eyebrows because based on my experience, it’s a way for one party to try to gain an advantage over the other,” he said, according to the transcripts.

Story predicts

real-life ending

The day after the hearing in Mazurek’s courtroom, Garcia sent a text message telling Tagle to check her e-mail. In it was an anonymous message containing a story called “Necessary Evil.”

The story describes in detail Tagle’s and Garcia’s relationship, from their fights over his video-game addiction, to their breakup, to her new relationship and his failed proposal.

In the end, the story has two endings. In “Happy Ending,” the female character returns to the man.

In “Tragic Ending,” the character takes his son to a lake, puts him to sleep with Benadryl and the baby dies. “He will have a better life with you then (sic) we can give him here,” the man tells God before taking his own life.

Tagle called 9-1-1 after reading the story, and the responding deputy immediately went to the courthouse and obtained an emergency restraining order for her, signed by Mazurek.

However, in Victorville court Jan. 14, Judge Robert Lemkau would not uphold the restraining order and ordered Tagle to immediately give Wyatt to Garcia, as it was the day his scheduled visitation was to begin.

Transcripts from that hearing are not yet available, but family and friends who were in the court that day with Tagle said the judge appeared not to have read the evidence she presented, including the “Necessary Evil” story and the emergency restraining order obtained by a sheriff’s deputy.

“Just from the very beginning, he didn’t want to listen,” said Rick Tagle, who was in the courtroom. “He started out by saying, ‘One of you is lying and I think it’s you,’ and pointing at Katie.”

The judge also allegedly warned Tagle there would be consequences for lying.

Lemkau did not respond to an e-mail request for comment; the county does not provide judges’ office telephone numbers.

The following Sunday, when Garcia missed his arranged custody transfer with Tagle, she had to call a deputy to get Wyatt back from Garcia’s house.

Friends say discouraged and frightened by her last appearance in court, she did not seek another restraining order or custody change.

“She was afraid she would go before the judge who called her a liar,” her sister said.

Now I will examine various points made in this story. First, I want to make one thing very clear to those victims out there thinking a restraining order is the solution. IT IS NOT! You must have a safety plan in place, as an RO is only a piece of paper. It is but one of many tools available to victims of abuse. You have to change how you live in order to survive and protect your children.

With that said let's examine this article.

“This was preventable. This didn’t have to happen,” Tagle’s mother, Maria Brown said the day after Wyatt’s death.

Yes, this was preventable. The prevention starts with education and planning. The planning should also have included education, not just for this mother, but for all involved in this case. In looking at Dastardly Dads we see that many dads who have hurt or killed their children have had shared custody. There need to be laws on the books protecting children from abusive people (or the current laws in place need to be followed better). Mothers and children are being hurt and killed needlessly.

“If I grant the restraining order, how do you think that’s going to help with respect to you two being able to raise Wyatt together or work together to make sure Wyatt grows up happy and healthy?” the judge asked, according to the transcripts.

This is where the next problem lies. Abusers do NOT deserve, nor should they EVER have any type of custody or control over a child, whether they abused that child or not. EVER! Still don't understand that? EVER!!!!! Is that clear enough for ya'? And judges who think that an abuser deserves or has the right to have any kind of custody should be forced to visit women who have been maimed by an abusive man. Or even perhaps have to help in the daily care of a child who has been shaken so severely they cannot function on there own without assistance. Or even better, visit the graves of those women and children who have been killed by an abuser.

Asked about an e-mail in which he confessed to hitting Tagle, Garcia told the judge he had slapped her during a fight, but it was Tagle’s fault for “pushing and pushing and pushing until she could get something from me.”

Herein lies the next problem. It is NEVER the victims fault that someone hits her. EVER! And I will say this again. IT IS NEVER A WOMAN'S FAULT IF A MAN HITS HER. EVER!!!!!!

This is the biggest problem we have with judges and restraining orders:

“I get concerned when there’s a pending child custody and visitation issue and in between that, one party or the other claims that there’s some violence in between. It raises the court’s eyebrows because based on my experience, it’s a way for one party to try to gain an advantage over the other,” he said, according to the transcripts.

If someone has police reports, emails, texts, letters, or some other evidence or any combination of the above alleging violence, a jusge should not think it is being used to gain a foothold in another venue. The process by which one must get a restrianing order is invasive. Several people will read the most intimate details os a woman's life. In order to stand a chance of getting a restraining order, she must give as much information as possible to this judge. This information will probably include details of her sex life among many otehr things witha judge (who is a complete stranger to this woman). And not only will the judge read this but it will be available for anyone who walks into the courthouse to read. She must spill her inner soul to police, clerks at the courthouse, in front of strangers in attendance during the hearing, and much more.

And the last and final serious issue that affects many victims of abuse is below:

Friends say discouraged and frightened by her last appearance in court, she did not seek another restraining order or custody change.

“She was afraid she would go before the judge who called her a liar,” her sister said.

I could be reading my own story here. How many times did I call the police when my hosue was burglarized? How many times did I have to clean up the yard from everything thrown around due to the anger issues from my ex? How many times did I receive calls from my abuser wanting to know why I was not at work when work began and why it was hours later before I showed up at work (when there WAS an active restraining order in place)? How would my abuser know that I was not at work? It goes back to my first comment - having a safety plan in place. My abuser believes the reason for me telling anyone who will listen to me that he was abusive during our marriage was to humiliate him, was to gain an advantage in family court, or for any number of reasons his deluded little brain could muster. NEWSFLASH!!!! It was PARt of my safety plan. The more people who knew of his actions, the more who saw the abuses taking place, the better my chances were for obtaining justice for our child and I. The jsutice which always seemed withing reach but was never obtainable. I too recognize the moving on part, the only diffference between Katie and I is that my child by some miracle is still here and phsyically in one piece (emotionally and mentally is another story - but that is fodder for another article). I can feel her pain when she pours out her heart to complete strangers about the violations upon her. Do we really need to have any more of this pain? Do we really need any more dead bodies laying around before we figure out that ABUSIVE DADS ARE MORE THE NORM than FR/MRA's would like to admit (perhaps even some of them fit in this category), and we stop the madness?

Or are we going to have more dead bodies, more crippled children, more traumatized mothers?

Are FRA's whiners? Lets examine this in detail (or not)

pjk Says:

January 16th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Woman protesting treatment of women = Nobel Prize candidate
Man protesting treatment of men = Pathetic whiner

Okay now, pjk assumes (and we know what happens when one ASS U MEs anything) that a male protesting equates to him being a whiner. Let's examine the male protesters throughout history. We can start with Martin Luther King. He protested (peacefully I might add which we will cover later) the unequal treatment of minorities. He asked for fair and equal TREATMENT of all. We can then examine the case of Rosa Parks (oops she was a woman so not a good example - no actually she is a GREAT example). Rosa Parks made one simple yet extremely poignant statement when she changed seats on the bus. Did she do it for women? Did she do it for black women? NO! She did it for all people! We can then look at Nelson Mandela. He worked for the good of ALL people as well, ending apartheid in South Africa. He was jailed for 27 years for his role in those protests. And one other protester to examine is Tom Hayden. Name not quite familiar to you? He was involved in the civil rights and war movements of the 1960's, animal rights movements today as well as actively involved in politics as well as maintaining a speaking career.

Now let's look at this and see what all of these protestors have in common. Welllllllll, there are men and women in this group. Mixture of races as well, so that is not what they have in common. Ages? Nope they are all different ages as well. Some of these activists were killed - some were not, some served jail time - some did not. So what do these activists have in common?



LIGHTBULB MOMENT!!!!!

These activists/protestors were all protesting against unequal treatment of males AND females. Not just men!!! So could that be why FRA's are looked at as whiners when all the FACTS show that post-divorce men tend to do better than women? Post-divorce men tend to do better than the children?

Nah that wouldn't have anything at all to do with the price of tea in China because these mehnz are simply angry that they have to give that bitch any money. And if they are serious abusers, the simple fact alone that the woman is attempting to stand up for herself is against the grain anyways.

Well Petunia's message to these FRA WHINERS (and yes they are VERY MUCH whiners), get a clue, get a life, and love your child and RESPECT the mother of your children. Stop trying to dehumanize her. Quit being crybabies. Oh yeah and grow up. Some of our chidlren are more mature than you.

Why we should not lie to our children - it is not Parental Alienation (Syndrome) to tell them the truth

I promised to cover this article on its own after the last post. I will try to give it justice. Here is a link to the article in question:

http://mkg4583.wordpress.com/2009/12/07/real-protective-parents-never-call-themselves-protective-parents/.

Here is the text of the article for those who do not wish to go to the website. You can go to verify that as of 11AM CST, I have a true and correct copy of this article.

Many father’s and families rights activists hear the term protective parents used by those parents who make false allegations in court all the time.

Court Judges, Commissioners, Attorneys and Psychologists KNOW that what you say about the other parent is what you are saying about your own CHILD. Children know this intuitively. If children know you hate mom or dad, then your children know you hate them. After all, they are half the other parent. Children are not stupid, but one wonders about “Protective parents.”

It is time to set the record straight.

Real Protective Parents

1. Never make allegations against the other parent in court, and NEVER make them in the presence of their children.

2. Never refer to themselves as protective parents. It is a code word, listed below.

3. Support efforts to have Parental Alienation recognized by courts and the American Psychological Association, and never keep a child away from the other.

4. Never refer to their ex-spouse as abuser, drug addict, alcoholic, neither in court, on the Internet, and NEVER before their children.

5. Encourage the children to see the other parent, actively support the children’s involvement with the other parent.

6. Cooperate with the other parent to raise the children through co-parenting.

7. Never use a restraining order against the other parent as a sword, instead only obtain one as a shield for themselves alone.

The term protective parent is code word that non-custodial mothers groups invented after losing their children in family court action when they violated one of the basic cannons recognized by family court as be a fit parent.

Now lets take this apart point by point and see where your logic is in the mild form somewhat flawed, and in the most severe EXTREMELY dangerous to children.

1. Never make allegations against the other parent in court, and NEVER make them in the presence of their children.

If your wife was found to have sold your children into prostitution or child slavery, would you still stand by the creed - never badmouth the other parent? Would you still insist that one parent must always be positive about the other parent? I can imagine how this conversation would go. Mommy (daddy), so and so stuck (insert item here) into my private area, when child is being questioned about vaginal or rectal bleeding. If the guilty party IS the other parent what IS the non-offending mother or father supposed to say to the child? Can you please explain that one to me Godbey?

What is the non-offending parent supposed to do when the child comes home and uses racial slurs? IGNORE IT? When we see socially unacceptable behavior coming from a stranger, we educate our children as to why that behavior is inappropriate. Why should this same standard not be applied to us as parents? You have mentioned many times in your blog that I (as one of the so-called Pig Pen mothers) am not allowed contact with my child. And I have informed you that is the furthest thing from the truth. And as a CUSTODIAL mother, I tell my child when I have made bad decisions. When I make mistakes, I try to show these mistakes to my children in the hopes they will not have to repeat those same mistakes. It does not always work because everyone must make their own mistakes.

But when you are discussing safety issues for children and the perpetrator of the violence against a child IS a parent, the worst thing the other parent can do is keep silent about the abuse. I am not suggesting the protective parent (covered here should go out of their way to bad mouth the other parent, but when abuse is uncovered, the non-offending parent has a duty to the child to explain how this was not appropriate on the part of the perpetrator.

2. Never refer to themselves as protective parents. It is a code word, listed below.

I am unclear as to why this is a code word and why you are allowed to claim to be a protective parent? Why is the term "protective parent only viewed as bad when it is a mother who is claiming this?

3. Support efforts to have Parental Alienation recognized by courts and the American Psychological Association, and never keep a child away from the other.

This is covered all over the Internet so I will not go into this here. Suffice it to say, the best articles I have discovered to date on this issue are located at www.randijames.com and www.rightsformothers.com.

4. Never refer to their ex-spouse as abuser, drug addict, alcoholic, neither in court, on the Internet, and NEVER before their children.

Tell me again why we should not tell our children if the other parent is engaging in reckless behavior (such as abuse, addictions, excessive uncontollable drinking). I missed the "WHY's" of your reasoning behind this particular rule of rearing children. If one parent is diagnosed as an alcoholic, should we not try to help our chidlren so they may possibly avoid this same path? A "PROTECTIVE MOTHER" with whom I speak on a regular basis is an alcoholic. She however has quit drinking. She has learned that her children have an extremely high risk of engaging in the same behavior, whether she abstains or not, as it has been determined to be partially linked to genetics (studies here. Are you telling me that as children grow and evelop, we should not inform them of any medical issues which could imapct their life? My alcoholic friend has already started with her child, as both her and her ex-spouse have problems with alcohol (the mothers issues are in remission at this point, the father's sadly not so).

5. Encourage the children to see the other parent, actively support the children’s involvement with the other parent.

Is this an all the time kind of thing, whether the other parent is safe for the child or not? To whom should a non-offending parent turn in cases of severe abuse (or even not so sever albeit chronic abuse)? This just sounds like another victim waiting to happen to me.

6. Cooperate with the other parent to raise the children through co-parenting.

Again the same argument from above can be applied to this "requirement". This is just another way to say that (especially in cases like your and some of the other father's rights activists), a mother (custodial parent) MUST do what the non-custodial parent (father) says - OR ELSE. Or else - what?

7. Never use a restraining order against the other parent as a sword, instead only obtain one as a shield for themselves alone.

I do believe we are getting to the crux of this matter. Godbey is upset over the numerous RO's his exwife has had to obtain due to his behaviors, which his exwife allegedly feels are harmful to the children. Are we as parents not to try to protect our children whenever possible? I realize that children must make mistakes in order to grow. When do we as good parents draw the line between growth and downright harmful behaviors? When do we say - enough is enough? Apparently in the eyes of this blogger, if the person who is abusive is a NCP(father), it should be NEVER.



The term protective parent is code word that non-custodial mothers groups invented after losing their children in family court action when they violated one of the basic cannons recognized by family court as be a fit parent.

Now we are onto to something here. Godbey again ASS U MEs that the active protective parents who blog about protecting chidlren, who share about children's rights being more important than those of mothers or of fathers, are in some sort of conspiracy and we are so evil that the courts have removed our children from us. Not that I have anything to prove to you, but I AM a custodial mother, my ex is a 14%er as some are so fond of calling themselves. There is still abuse occurring, however this abuse is not illegal. Until our child can stand on alone, I will continue to tell which choices of mine AND those of the ex-husband are appropriate and right and which are inappropriate and wrong. I will also inform the child of those choices which are abuse.

Your little list is nothing more than another tool for abusers to use in order to silence the victim. But of course this is the main goal of the father's rights movement. They may preach equality for all except those who abuse, but in their eyes, any mother who dares stand on her own is a bad mother.

Sounds pretty dam sexist if you ask me, Godbey.

Calling all Protective UK Moms!!!!

Have you been abused by your partner or ex-partner? Have you lost custody of your child due to this abuse and his continued litigation in court? Email me!!!

FatherTime Says:

August 17th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
I understand that he should be held accountable for his actions. However, this is highly suspicious and where there is smoke there is usually fire.

I have had several interactions with police. The police seem to assume mother custody, and male dv batterers. I don't trust the police, and carry a snout in my glove box for emergencies. Maybe I should carry donuts too.

I have friends who are police officers. But I don't even trust them.

Your best friend is a camera.

He carries a SNOUT?!?!?!?!?!?! And we wonder WHY he had issues with custody?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? I am also sure his "police friends" would love to hear this one.

Danno I am not Jennifer but I do not think she is going anywhere anytime soon

Danno Says:

August 11th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Holly’s fabricated story just keeps going. With Jennifer’s obsessive mental health problems she just can’t get on with her life. I noticed she responded to Glen’s recent mention of within the hour of his publishing that article.

I assumed Jennifer might have realized her mother has only given her one side of the story since it’s been proven the whole fractured skull incident really happened when he fell out of a shopping cart.

Given the statements from the FFLM, it’s so typical Jennifer can’t disprove this;

“Then Jennifer spoke up, and the audience and moderators gasped when she told of her brother’s skull being broken by their custodial dad (who would violently beat their mother Holly).”

Obviously Jennifer left this tidbit out while trying to rally the extremist who still support her. Those days may be numbered.

She rants over and over that she’s the one who knows because it happened to her but just like PAS, her entire world is built around a lie.

I think Jennifer was hoping she’d have a fresh audience but no one is even listening anymore, except those of us who know the truth which Glen has proven beyond doubt. I’d bet money Jennifer will go back into hiding which is a clue to her lies.

Okay now the FR/MRA's are saying that Jennifer's brother got injured by falling out of a shopping cart? What is it guys? You say she cannot keep her story straight? I think typoes and spreading lies about a grown woman are two different things. Grow up, move on.... Jennifer is here to stay. And just wait until YOUR children grow up. There will be more Jennifer's, more Fatima's, more Jeff's, more Alanna's.... Many many more of them. Until the courts see the abuse for what it is. See that PAS hurts kids, and not because mom is alienating the child, because the courts are giving the chidlren to an ABUSER!!!!