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December 12, 2009

Mental Disorder/Illness Opposition to Parental Alienation Syndrome – Part 1






Mental Disorder/Illness Opposition to Parental Alienation Syndrome – Part 1

When I first discovered the term of Parental Alienation Syndrome, I thought that everyone was in agreement that it was valid since proof of alienating tactics can be seen in parents that train children to hate, and vilify the other parent.

Isn’t it obvious that anyone who does this is mentally ill? To judges, attorneys and parents everyone seems to agree, a parent that does this to a child is an abuser. Since the vast majority of women have sole custody, most of the abusers are women. But Parental Alienationn is a gender-neutral sickness, because I have friends that are women that are alienated from the children. By the dads.

Further reading showed that Parental Alienation Syndrome is generated and perpetuated by an axis of disorders listed in the current DSM book. These include paranoia, histrionic, and borderline disorders. There are a few more that can be added to this disorder, but I have read that these are the core disorders that make up this syndrome.

The American Psychological Association uses a test, shortnamed the MMPI-II test that can actually indicate any of the above mentioned disorder exist. Collectively and through actions by the abusive parent, this makes up Parental Alienation Syndrome.

By itself, the test does not indicate mental illness.

But answers to the test point to actions and activities that mentally ill persons see as OK. Denial, lying, slander, libel, self-medicating, etc. are OK with these folk since to them, the end justifies the means. Sociopathic behavior is fine and dandy, with Parental alienators.

For dozens of children’s and parent’s rights activists, a group of “Anon…..s.” or members of the Pig Pen as we call them spend their days attacking fathers and children through lies and slander. They also attack women from time to time, so women are “abusers,” too.

They have also been creating fake IDs on Facebook, and joining father’s groups to stalk them there. Just recently, a person known as “Randi James” (not real name, obviously) was de-friend-ed by dozens of men (and a few women) when she spewed her bittternes against fathers in a comment thread on Facebook.

If you read some of the hatred that comes from their hate websites you can see why they lost their kids and

1.Denial – Everyone else to blame for their problems. They are “victims” or “battered women”.
2.Paranoia – Most alienates are paranoid and hide while they lie. they imagine they are being stalked.
3.Lying – See 1, also they will say anything to win in family court, especially false allegations of abuse, etc. Besides lying in court, they when they blog, or write or when they talk to you.
4.Hate – See, 1 2.3. above.
There are some websites that glorify in blaming others for “their problems”. Primarily being no one believes them. Either they were “battered” women, or married to “abusers” or the children are now in the hands of “abusers”.

You will also find vicious attacks on Dr. Richard Gardner (he is dead, it is OK to attack a dead person.) All the stuff about Dr. Garnder is made up. Attacks on fathers, activists for children, etc. are their primary targets. They go after live dads, too, but never with their own names, since they fear libel and slander laws.

Despite the fact that women are playing on their “home field” in Family Court, these women of the “pig pen” lost a fight that bookies had them winning.

Why is this? See the list above. Nuff said. Part 2 to come.


Now it is time to take this apart - point by point. I know it will never shut this guy up though.

His first paragraph:

When I first discovered the term of Parental Alienation Syndrome, I thought that everyone was in agreement that it was valid since proof of alienating tactics can be seen in parents that train children to hate, and vilify the other parent.


Where is this so-called "proof" of which you speak Markie poo? And you "discovered" Parental Alienation Syndrome? I thought that was your buddy, famed pedophile supporting, suicide committing Richard Gardner? 'Nuff said - next paragraph.

Isn’t it obvious that anyone who does this is mentally ill? To judges, attorneys and parents everyone seems to agree, a parent that does this to a child is an abuser. Since the vast majority of women have sole custody, most of the abusers are women. But Parental Alienationn is a gender-neutral sickness, because I have friends that are women that are alienated from the children. By the dads.


How is this a mental illness? Maybe a parent has good reason to not want a child to be around the other parent? And what YOU might deem as alienation, another might feel is protection. You say po-tay-toe, I say po-tah-toe. You also point out that this is a women's disorder since most women have custody, yet you switch teams and then contradict yourself. Which is it? Do women mostly do this (whatever "this" is in your remaining brain cell) or are women also affected by this? I think you do not even know yourself. 'Nuff said.

Further reading showed that Parental Alienation Syndrome is generated and perpetuated by an axis of disorders listed in the current DSM book. These include paranoia, histrionic, and borderline disorders. There are a few more that can be added to this disorder, but I have read that these are the core disorders that make up this syndrome.


Again let me point out that you have chosen to list only those disorder that affect primarily women. In fact if you look at one of the terms you use (histrionic), this is generally associated with women (as histrionic is based on the term hysteria, hysterical and women are stereotypically perceived as hysterical when we are upset). Shall we list the disorders that are associated with an abusive parent (truly abusive - one who enjoys wielding power and control over his victims)? How about Narcisstic Personality Disorder? Or how about alcohol and drug abuse/dependency? 'Nuff said.

The American Psychological Association uses a test, shortnamed the MMPI-II test that can actually indicate any of the above mentioned disorder exist. Collectively and through actions by the abusive parent, this makes up Parental Alienation Syndrome.


Were you aware that battered women can test as paranoid, hysterical, and with borderline tendencies due to the trauma and ongoing fear she may have due to an abusive spouse? Some of the key questions on the MMPI-III ask if you feel people are watching you, if you are being followed, etc etc. If a battered woman answers these honestly with an abusive spouse who is stalking her, an expert UNTRAINED in dv would deem her as suffering from paranoia. On the same token, many of the symptoms of BPD are shared with PTSD. In fact, if an expert is trained in trauma victims he or she will realize that the answers supplied which could lead a person to believe the test taker is suffering from borderline when taken in context with an in face interview and knowledge of trauma and abuse will lead the test giver to conclude the test taker suffers from PTSD. Got it Markie poo? Good, 'nuff said.

By itself, the test does not indicate mental illness.


Ahhh here he acknowledges (yet he does not clarify) that the test by itself does not conclude the test taker to be suffering from any mental defect or disorder. But then again he does not need to clarify, I do that quite well. One need only go to On Soul's Edge - Complex PTSD to read about this issue. Markie poo and others in the father's rights movement are fond of claiming the ex-wives are also suffering from bipolar disorder. A very interesting read can be found here: Complex (Chronic) Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder
(PTSD)
. 'Nuff said on this one.

But answers to the test point to actions and activities that mentally ill persons see as OK. Denial, lying, slander, libel, self-medicating, etc. are OK with these folk since to them, the end justifies the means. Sociopathic behavior is fine and dandy, with Parental alienators.
Okay I must ask, how are we lying, slandering, comitting libel, self-medicating, and in denial as well? If we lie, then the test would be useless as all the answers would be lies. I must also ask how we commit slander? Is this against you or some unnamed person? And you know this how? The definition of slander is utilizing the spoken word to utter untruths about someone which causes him or her harm. You are not anywhere close to me geographically to know whether I say anything and whether those statements are true or not. Also the person (either you or Mr. Mystery) would have to prove that my actions have caused irreperable harm to you or the mysterious Mr. Mystery. You would also need to prove that this harm was not caused by something you did yourself. You court record speaks for itself Markie poo. 'Nuff said.

For dozens of children’s and parent’s rights activists, a group of “Anon…..s.” or members of the Pig Pen as we call them spend their days attacking fathers and children through lies and slander. They also attack women from time to time, so women are “abusers,” too.


Here you go again bringing up Anonymums. Have you not kept up with the news dude? Sadly the woman responsible for creating Anonymums has passed on (and this unforeseen event was totally by surprise and we are all still reeling from her loss). I am sure however that once her family adjusts, someone will be there to pick up the pieces left by Anonymums and carry on her selfless and valiant lifelong effort. And there you go again with your name calling (pig pen allegations again). Tsk tsk tsk Markie poo. 'Nuff said.

They have also been creating fake IDs on Facebook, and joining father’s groups to stalk them there. Just recently, a person known as “Randi James” (not real name, obviously) was de-friend-ed by dozens of men (and a few women) when she spewed her bittternes against fathers in a comment thread on Facebook.


Okay do you have "proof" of these fake Facebook pages? We write on blogs and as such we are using psuedonyms. So while in your mind these Facebook profiles might be fake, it is only because you want our true identities revealed so you and others like you can shut us down through intimidation and fear. I already know several abused and protective mothers who have been through THAT ringer. 'Nuff said.

If you read some of the hatred that comes from their hate websites you can see why they lost their kids and

1.Denial – Everyone else to blame for their problems. They are “victims” or “battered women”.
2.Paranoia – Most alienates are paranoid and hide while they lie. they imagine they are being stalked.
3.Lying – See 1, also they will say anything to win in family court, especially false allegations of abuse, etc. Besides lying in court, they when they blog, or write or when they talk to you.
4.Hate – See, 1 2.3. above.


Funny how our websites are considered hate websites when all we do is copy what you (and others like you) have placed on the internet, yet you are not writing a hate website yourself. Do you forget so quickly the creation of the fake Anonymums website (courtesy of Markie poo folks)? Or how about the numerous posts about the members of the pig pen? How is that for hate Markie poo? And yet again we go through these supposed symptoms of an alienator. A victim of domestic violence whose abuser has followed them, has others track her as well, could be percieved as being paranoid, or cautious. I myself prefer to think of a woman expressing anxiety over the fact that her ex-abuser is turning up everywhere she goes to taunt and harras as cautious. But that is just me. And again how are we in denial? We know what happened to us and to our children by the freak abusers. You were not there (just as you are not here now) so you have absolutely no stinking idea what has happened or is happening or will happen. Again you are ASS U ME ing. 'Nuff said.

There are some websites that glorify in blaming others for “their problems”. Primarily being no one believes them. Either they were “battered” women, or married to “abusers” or the children are now in the hands of “abusers”.


Again I must point out that you have no idea who some of us are, and as such you do not have access to our court records. I can only speak of myself but you will see numerous calls to law enforcement before the initial restraining order (the first of 3) and then a period of several months before the divorce filing. I did manage to have some victories despite the decks being stacked against me (he had the money basically). But I will not list the errors made by my attorney on my site, if a battered woman wants to know what mistakes those might be, they may contact me directly. I will then determine if the email is legitimate as I will not provide any abuser with the means to take or keep a child away from a protective parent. 'Nuff said.

You will also find vicious attacks on Dr. Richard Gardner (he is dead, it is OK to attack a dead person.) All the stuff about Dr. Garnder is made up. Attacks on fathers, activists for children, etc. are their primary targets. They go after live dads, too, but never with their own names, since they fear libel and slander laws.


I will tear this up starting with your last comment and moving to the first. You say we "go after" living fathers? We only post on this site the spews of those men who make their views public and then only when they have reached epidemic proportions (such as yourself). We do not go after dads who are private and who are keeping the identities of their child private. Nor do we go after any man who was not arrested for, charged with, or convicted of abuse of any form. Apparently your ex-wife has felt the need to have numerous restraining orders placed on you, so you are fair game. You also fill the second part of my criteria, you not only have made your identity known, you have exposed the children your ex-wife and you brought into this world, and lastly you have the record and the mouth. Your mouth (or should I say, your fingers, are what gets you mentioned here. Nothing more, nothing less.

Now onto your statement that all the stuff about Richard Gardner is made up. His autopsy report:Richard Gardner Autopsy Report (scroll down to see actual images of the report) His views on children and sexuality: Richard Gradner Children Sexuality. You can also go to Liz Library at these two links:http://www.google.com/custom?q=richard+gardner&cof=L%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.thelizlibrary.org%2Fthelizlibrary-search.gif%3BAH%3Aleft%3B&sitesearch=thelizlibrary.org http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/012.htm to read more. 'Nuff said.

Shew almost there. Petunia's hooves are killing her :-(

Despite the fact that women are playing on their “home field” in Family Court, these women of the “pig pen” lost a fight that bookies had them winning.

Why is this? See the list above. Nuff said. Part 2 to come.


Again you go with your name calling and libel against us and again you go ASS U ME ing that we LOST in court. Some of us did and others of us are just not happy due to not being able to protect our children from the wrath of an abuser.

So I will anxiously be awaiting Part 2 as I will tear that one apart as well.

'NUFF SAID!!!!!




I think this picture says it all. Readers wouldn;t you be scared if you saw THIS?????

December 8, 2009

Why we should not lie to our children - it is not Parental Alienation (Syndrome) to tell them the truth






I promised to cover this article on its own after the last post. I will try to give it justice. Here is a link to the article in question:

http://mkg4583.wordpress.com/2009/12/07/real-protective-parents-never-call-themselves-protective-parents/.

Here is the text of the article for those who do not wish to go to the website. You can go to verify that as of 11AM CST, I have a true and correct copy of this article.

Many father’s and families rights activists hear the term protective parents used by those parents who make false allegations in court all the time.

Court Judges, Commissioners, Attorneys and Psychologists KNOW that what you say about the other parent is what you are saying about your own CHILD. Children know this intuitively. If children know you hate mom or dad, then your children know you hate them. After all, they are half the other parent. Children are not stupid, but one wonders about “Protective parents.”

It is time to set the record straight.

Real Protective Parents

1. Never make allegations against the other parent in court, and NEVER make them in the presence of their children.

2. Never refer to themselves as protective parents. It is a code word, listed below.

3. Support efforts to have Parental Alienation recognized by courts and the American Psychological Association, and never keep a child away from the other.

4. Never refer to their ex-spouse as abuser, drug addict, alcoholic, neither in court, on the Internet, and NEVER before their children.

5. Encourage the children to see the other parent, actively support the children’s involvement with the other parent.

6. Cooperate with the other parent to raise the children through co-parenting.

7. Never use a restraining order against the other parent as a sword, instead only obtain one as a shield for themselves alone.

The term protective parent is code word that non-custodial mothers groups invented after losing their children in family court action when they violated one of the basic cannons recognized by family court as be a fit parent.


Now lets take this apart point by point and see where your logic is in the mild form somewhat flawed, and in the most severe EXTREMELY dangerous to children.

1. Never make allegations against the other parent in court, and NEVER make them in the presence of their children.

If your wife was found to have sold your children into prostitution or child slavery, would you still stand by the creed - never badmouth the other parent? Would you still insist that one parent must always be positive about the other parent? I can imagine how this conversation would go. Mommy (daddy), so and so stuck (insert item here) into my private area, when child is being questioned about vaginal or rectal bleeding. If the guilty party IS the other parent what IS the non-offending mother or father supposed to say to the child? Can you please explain that one to me Godbey?

What is the non-offending parent supposed to do when the child comes home and uses racial slurs? IGNORE IT? When we see socially unacceptable behavior coming from a stranger, we educate our children as to why that behavior is inappropriate. Why should this same standard not be applied to us as parents? You have mentioned many times in your blog that I (as one of the so-called Pig Pen mothers) am not allowed contact with my child. And I have informed you that is the furthest thing from the truth. And as a CUSTODIAL mother, I tell my child when I have made bad decisions. When I make mistakes, I try to show these mistakes to my children in the hopes they will not have to repeat those same mistakes. It does not always work because everyone must make their own mistakes.

But when you are discussing safety issues for children and the perpetrator of the violence against a child IS a parent, the worst thing the other parent can do is keep silent about the abuse. I am not suggesting the protective parent (covered here should go out of their way to bad mouth the other parent, but when abuse is uncovered, the non-offending parent has a duty to the child to explain how this was not appropriate on the part of the perpetrator.

2. Never refer to themselves as protective parents. It is a code word, listed below.

I am unclear as to why this is a code word and why you are allowed to claim to be a protective parent? Why is the term "protective parent only viewed as bad when it is a mother who is claiming this?

3. Support efforts to have Parental Alienation recognized by courts and the American Psychological Association, and never keep a child away from the other.

This is covered all over the Internet so I will not go into this here. Suffice it to say, the best articles I have discovered to date on this issue are located at www.randijames.com and www.rightsformothers.com.

4. Never refer to their ex-spouse as abuser, drug addict, alcoholic, neither in court, on the Internet, and NEVER before their children.

Tell me again why we should not tell our children if the other parent is engaging in reckless behavior (such as abuse, addictions, excessive uncontollable drinking). I missed the "WHY's" of your reasoning behind this particular rule of rearing children. If one parent is diagnosed as an alcoholic, should we not try to help our chidlren so they may possibly avoid this same path? A "PROTECTIVE MOTHER" with whom I speak on a regular basis is an alcoholic. She however has quit drinking. She has learned that her children have an extremely high risk of engaging in the same behavior, whether she abstains or not, as it has been determined to be partially linked to genetics (studies here. Are you telling me that as children grow and evelop, we should not inform them of any medical issues which could imapct their life? My alcoholic friend has already started with her child, as both her and her ex-spouse have problems with alcohol (the mothers issues are in remission at this point, the father's sadly not so).

5. Encourage the children to see the other parent, actively support the children’s involvement with the other parent.

Is this an all the time kind of thing, whether the other parent is safe for the child or not? To whom should a non-offending parent turn in cases of severe abuse (or even not so sever albeit chronic abuse)? This just sounds like another victim waiting to happen to me.

6. Cooperate with the other parent to raise the children through co-parenting.

Again the same argument from above can be applied to this "requirement". This is just another way to say that (especially in cases like your and some of the other father's rights activists), a mother (custodial parent) MUST do what the non-custodial parent (father) says - OR ELSE. Or else - what?

7. Never use a restraining order against the other parent as a sword, instead only obtain one as a shield for themselves alone.

I do believe we are getting to the crux of this matter. Godbey is upset over the numerous RO's his exwife has had to obtain due to his behaviors, which his exwife allegedly feels are harmful to the children. Are we as parents not to try to protect our children whenever possible? I realize that children must make mistakes in order to grow. When do we as good parents draw the line between growth and downright harmful behaviors? When do we say - enough is enough? Apparently in the eyes of this blogger, if the person who is abusive is a NCP(father), it should be NEVER.



The term protective parent is code word that non-custodial mothers groups invented after losing their children in family court action when they violated one of the basic cannons recognized by family court as be a fit parent.


Now we are onto to something here. Godbey again ASS U MEs that the active protective parents who blog about protecting chidlren, who share about children's rights being more important than those of mothers or of fathers, are in some sort of conspiracy and we are so evil that the courts have removed our children from us. Not that I have anything to prove to you, but I AM a custodial mother, my ex is a 14%er as some are so fond of calling themselves. There is still abuse occurring, however this abuse is not illegal. Until our child can stand on alone, I will continue to tell which choices of mine AND those of the ex-husband are appropriate and right and which are inappropriate and wrong. I will also inform the child of those choices which are abuse.

Your little list is nothing more than another tool for abusers to use in order to silence the victim. But of course this is the main goal of the father's rights movement. They may preach equality for all except those who abuse, but in their eyes, any mother who dares stand on her own is a bad mother.

Sounds pretty dam sexist if you ask me, Godbey.



March 9, 2009

Good dads?

These are the men folks who are these good dads who want responsibility for the children of the next generation......

Keep reading there will be more on this

Watch this video

"A lot of mothers can be vindictive bitches..."

"Social services decides to honor a restraining order that the 'so-called' mother...."

"Marital Rape is on the rise....all the wife has to do is say just before she leaves to her new boyfriend....is accuse a man....of rape....."

"There are people out there ready to put a bullet in a few judges' head, more than a few..."




February 24, 2009

Orlando to have new program to assist in determining lethality in DV situations





Questionnaire helps Orlando police break spiral of domestic abuse

Now this is one SMALL step in the right direction. Also notice that there are 52 comments as of 4:00PM EST February 24, 2009.

Some of the comments while possibly an attempmt at humor are nonetheless so very true. Men who attempt to control their wives through the use of violence are then left windering why she then tires of the assaults and uses that information in her divorce of him. One poster on this site sums it up while humorously, in terms we can all understand:

honeypot
Springfield, VA
Reply »
|Report Abuse |#20 Wednesday Feb 11
Amen to Orlando for taking a Pro-Active approach to domestic violence. Years ago I was the victim of a violent stalker and there were no laws to protect. LE's hands were tied until a crime was committed. If this new technique can thwart even one assault, there is value. Prevention is a large part of the cure and it doesn't cost the taxpayers anything for the cops to ask questions.

And a note to the poster who believes women use Domestic Violence to prosper in divorce proceedings. B/S. Women use MEN to prosper in divorce proceedings. For some, that's what marriage is for. Don't like it; don't marry -- it's a fools' investment.


One can only hope that surrounding cities and counties in Florida will step up to the plate as OPD and Orlando has done.

February 12, 2009

WE CANNOT HAVE THIS - A SENATOR IN THE MAKING - BEEN THROUGH DIVORCE AND DV MILL?!?!?!?

12
Hurley Hacker Says:

February 11th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
Mike M. # 3;

I have an idea where some energy could be well spent. My brother ran for US congress in 2008 and lost. He is running again and knowing my brother he will win. He is divorced twice and has been through the DV mill and the divorce industry . He will be an excellent advocate for Father's and Children. He has been on the Dennis Prager show a couple of times and has been endorsed by like minded individuals. I don't know where Glenn and Ned are taking this movement but a congressman from California might be a good start.

What do you think??




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