Showing posts with label Parental Alienation. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Parental Alienation. Show all posts

June 27, 2010

Parental Alienation and Malicious Mom Syndrome get CBS “Flashpoint” Attention by domestic violence RO violator mkg4583 aka Mark Godbey

Well apparently mkg4583 aka Mark Godbey/multiple restraining order violator (on probation even) has seen the show Flashpoint this past weekend. I watched it also and let me tell you, he is so off base it is not even funny.

First he says the mom conspired with her boyfriend to kidnap her children. It was not just the boyfriend markie poo. Oh and it was not the cops who used the PAS and Malicious Mom, it was Mom's lawyer and Mom. And if you had watched the show - actually watched it rather than revel in your fake hypothesis being pushed forward by the clueless network ABC, you would have seen that. But you are too much into trying to show how bad all mothers are rather than accept your shortcomings - those being you are so controlling and intimidating and WHATEVER ELSE YOU ARE, that your ex had to get MULTIPLE RO's against you - AND THEN YOU VIOLATE THOSE TO THE POINT OF BEING ON PROBATION. Now we protective mothers know that for a man to get placed on probation for a violation it must be pretty severe.

Anyways missing the whole point here (see what abusers do to Petunia's brain?)... The point is not only are you deluded and misinformed, so is ABC. Of course dear ol' dad stories, especially those where dad is denied his rights will sell in the anti-mother climate that exists in the world today. And you and the other woman and mother haters will be right there to push it along.

June 18, 2010

Judge Lemkau, Glenn Sacks and other FReaks



Again I must say that we are making strides fellow protective parents. Even as the FReaks scramble and run, attempt to hide from the truth, it is still trickling out there.

So now I must play semantics yet again. What is the war cry for the most vocal of the FReaks out there? Say it with me - all at one time now:

WE WANT WHAT IS BEST FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES!!!!

Ummmmm okay then. Now to get on with this. Was Wyatt's death best for him? For his mom? How about the big brother left behind? Or the future siblings he might have had? What about the woman he might have eventually met and married? What about his children? Or his grandchildren? What about all those people whose lives he would have touched in some way? What about his extended family? What would he have grown up to be or do? Could he have had the secret to the cure for cancer or one of many debilitating diseases locked in his tiny mind waiting for him to grow up to be released? Would he have won a Nobel peace prize? Been POTUS?

Okay I think you get the point now. So where are Robert Franklin, Glenn Sacks, Ned Holstein, LK (Legally Kidnapped my ever present stalker), Terri Stoddard queen B of the purple vomit, Jen aka Biscuit Queen, Jeremy Swanson, Mark Godbey, dr e, Galt, Captain Courageous (Coward?), outdoors, Robert Gartner, DADZRITES, Monica of the Menstrual PAD fame, Trudy, Amy, Tara, Baskerville, Sue, Barbara, Bettina and all of the others?

Why don't you go to your blogs and websites, to National Examiner for the queen of the purple vomit and write about Wyatt? Why do you avoid him?

CHALLENGE you dimwits!!!!!

Write about the real victims.....

The children!!!!

April 7, 2010

This is your brain on PAS/PA/PAD








Remember those scare tactic videos about your brain on drugs? Don't know about you but they worked for me. Now lets take this on a new spin. What is someone who believes PA/PAS/PAD doing to their brains? Why are women the only ones ever accused of alienation or gatekeeping? We have a case here which to my eye appears to have the ever present gatekeeping and alienation tactics happening.

So quick run down on this story. Mom "allegedly" kidnaps child and returns to her native country amid accusations by her of violence in the marriage. Mother remarries after divorce has another child and dies in childbirth. Father to older child goes on rampage in order to secure custody of older child - even amid allegations of violence by mother's family in foreign country and mother's widowed current spouse. Father eventually uses American politicians and television news stations in order to carry child out of mother's native country. Now grandparents want to see child, want child to have a relationship with half sibling and father refuses.

What do you mean - father refuses? I thought all family should be allowed a relationship with children? Even with mother deceased shouldn't siblings and extended family of mother's be allowed continuing contact with child?

Apparently not and apparently the well known father's rights blogger, Glenn Sacks, REFUSES to run any stories on this "gatekeeping" of the child by FATHER. Even Ken Walker (kc9bdr@yahoo.com) agrees that Father should be allowed to keep child from maternal family - in fact he even quotes: "The maternal grandparents take the grandson to Brazil for 5 years, (mother dies) then complain when they don't get placement. Give it time!". Mother does this and it is automatically a given that mother is gatekeeping and engaging in PA/PAS/PAD. So why is this not true for FATHER? Is FATHER not gatekeeping and possibly engaging in PA/PAS/PAD? The child in question has been around the maternal relatives for years now. Are we punishing another innocent young child by denying that child the RIGHT to have a relationship with the older sibling?

Well, let me explain this so you get it really good, okay? Just as in this commercial about heroin use, PA/PAS/PAD has some rules too.

Women are the only ones who can gatekeep a child. Ladies, ladies. Here's how it works. It's only PAS/PA when we accuse you of doing it. When WE do the exact thing we just accused you of doing ("gatekeeping," obstructing visitation, etc.) it doesn't count. WE are the ONLY ones who can protect our children. These children are not your children, they are only our children. Just like that nice new car we fought for in the divorce, just like the house. Oh and forget about any equitable split, that is all ours too. Any questions?

So go back and watch the video again.

Frying pan is PAS/PA/PAD.

Egg is your brain.

And the violence you see portrayed is what COULD happen if PA/PAS/PAD is bought hook, line, and sinker. Our children, our future will be destroyed if abusers are allowed to continue to use JUNK SCIENCE in order to remove protective parents from a child's life and place children with an alleged abuser. Do we want to place these children with potential alleged abusers? Don't know about you but I do not. And now a young child is being denied a relationship with a sibling by a father and Glenn Sacks, Ken Walker, and who knows who else in the FATHER'S RIGHT MOVEMENT think this father is completely justified. Ken by his own words, and Sacks by his lack of words. Or is it just that as long as it is a father who is being allegedly denied this is a travesty that must (MUST!!!) be rectified, but when it is a mother or maternal relatives - ahhh who cares? One need only look at the case of Jean Paul Lacombe Diaz in Texas to see this is true. Where are the Ken Walker's, the Glenn Sacks for this mom who has proof of abuse, has court orders granting her custody of this child? The courts were TRICKED into turning the boy over to father. He did this ILLEGALLY yet we see nobody in the Father's Rights Movement speaking to the tragedy of this court's actions.

Oh gee I keep forgetting. That is because the parent who is being denied the child is MOM. Who cares about moms right? After all, the only thing moms are good for is carrying the child, giving birth to the child, feeding the child life supporting breast milk. When the child can walk and talk, the mother should be gone. Fathers are the only important ones now.

ANY QUESTIONS?

March 9, 2010

No proof required - and you too can steal a child....






I frequently get the question, "How do you prove parental alienation in Court?" My response is that, luckily, you do not have to prove it, you just have to get the Judge to believe that it is present...


I recall trials at one time in our past as a country in which no proof was required also. The victims of those trials were burned at the stake. Is PA/PAS/PAD the new Salem?

Just go HERE and you too can steal a child away from a fit, loving, PROTECTIVE parent. No questions asked about whether you are unfit or abusive - no siree. Hell you might even be able to get the other parent to pay child support to you. How sweet is that. You get free money, you get to continue to terrorize your victims - and all with the blessings of the court. Just wave around the new witchcraft accusations in the form of PA/PAS/PAD (hell these people cannot even make up their minds what they want to call it) and you too can have it all. If you are truly smart, you can start to threaten this before your victims even leave and make them stay.



February 10, 2010

Oh where oh where did PAS go? Oh where oh where did it go?






So where is it guys? What happened to yoru little pet project? What happened to your little money train, court whores? And you abusers out there whose children have seen through your smokescreen? Where is your little tool to control your victims? Hmmmm, I don't see it anywhere.

http://www.dsm5.org/Pages/Default.aspx

Nobody likes you everybody hates you? Us mean mean mommies have worked very diligently alongside TRUE professionals to ensure this would STAY OUT of the new DSM. Guess we worked harder than you huh? So sorry, too sad - maybe next time..........

February 4, 2010

Nine month old dead at father's hands




I normally do not post stories like this as I tend to concentrate on the stupidity of the MRA's more. However I felt this could not be passed along. First here is the link to this tragedy (http://www.hidesertstar.com/articles/2010/02/03/news/doc4b69381ed5e05699313614.txt).

Sunday’s murder-suicide was the culmination of months of threats and online and text rants from Stephen Garcia to Katie Tagle of Yucca Valley and her family.

The mother of a 9-month-old boy, Wyatt, with Garcia, Tagle was never able to secure a restraining order against him for herself or an order for supervised visitations for their son.

“This was preventable. This didn’t have to happen,” Tagle’s mother, Maria Brown said the day after Wyatt’s death.

“The system failed Wyatt. It cost him his life.”

Her family said Garcia abused Tagle throughout their two-year relationship, which ended in August 2009, when, her family said, he punched her in the face, knocking her unconscious.

Tagle brought Wyatt back to her family house in Yucca Valley, but frequently took him to visit Garcia’s parents in PiƱon Hills.

Garcia, her family said, did not seem especially interested in Tagle or their son until December 2009, when he discovered she was involved with another man.

“That’s when he wigged out,” Tagle’s sister Andrea Rodriguez of Hesperia said.

In letters on a Web site he set up to chronicle his communications to her and her friends, Garcia cursed at Tagle and told her to return to him.

During one custody exchange with Wyatt, he proposed to her, then knocked her to the ground.

Judge denies first restraining order

On Dec. 15, Tagle asked for an emergency restraining order against Garcia, telling Judge Debra Harris in a Joshua Tree courtroom that Garcia had threatened Wyatt.

“He had sent me text messages before that if his son was around certain people … that he would kill him,” Tagle told the judge, according to transcripts of the hearing.

“And that if I wasn’t where I was supposed to be, he’d find me and kill me.”

“What about the threat to shoot you, where did that occur, to hunt you down and shoot you with a gun?” the judge asked.

“That was in a text message, Tagle replied.

When Harris asked for copies of the text messages, Tagle said she had no way of printing them out and her phone was shut off.

The judge denied the emergency order and set a hearing.

Garcia ‘doesn’t pose a threat’

At that hearing, on Jan. 12, Tagle went before Judge David Mazurek in the Joshua Tree courthouse to show cause for a restraining order.

“…On Dec. 31, we were doing our exchange, and he proposed to me, and I said no. He got angry and stole my phone and pushed me down. I made a police report about that,” Tagle told the judge, according to a transcript.

Garcia told the judge the report was “falsely made up.”

Mazurek denied Tagle the restraining order.

“If I grant the restraining order, how do you think that’s going to help with respect to you two being able to raise Wyatt together or work together to make sure Wyatt grows up happy and healthy?” the judge asked, according to the transcripts.

“He would have both of us still,” Tagle responded.

Asked about an e-mail in which he confessed to hitting Tagle, Garcia told the judge he had slapped her during a fight, but it was Tagle’s fault for “pushing and pushing and pushing until she could get something from me.”

Tagle pointed out she was nine months pregnant when Garcia hit her.

“I kind of get an idea of what’s going on,” Mazurek said.

He denied the restraining order, saying, “I don’t think that Mr. Garcia poses a threat to Ms. Tagle.”

Mazurek went on to suggest Tagle might have ulterior motives for alleging domestic violence.

“I get concerned when there’s a pending child custody and visitation issue and in between that, one party or the other claims that there’s some violence in between. It raises the court’s eyebrows because based on my experience, it’s a way for one party to try to gain an advantage over the other,” he said, according to the transcripts.

Story predicts

real-life ending

The day after the hearing in Mazurek’s courtroom, Garcia sent a text message telling Tagle to check her e-mail. In it was an anonymous message containing a story called “Necessary Evil.”

The story describes in detail Tagle’s and Garcia’s relationship, from their fights over his video-game addiction, to their breakup, to her new relationship and his failed proposal.

In the end, the story has two endings. In “Happy Ending,” the female character returns to the man.

In “Tragic Ending,” the character takes his son to a lake, puts him to sleep with Benadryl and the baby dies. “He will have a better life with you then (sic) we can give him here,” the man tells God before taking his own life.

Tagle called 9-1-1 after reading the story, and the responding deputy immediately went to the courthouse and obtained an emergency restraining order for her, signed by Mazurek.

However, in Victorville court Jan. 14, Judge Robert Lemkau would not uphold the restraining order and ordered Tagle to immediately give Wyatt to Garcia, as it was the day his scheduled visitation was to begin.

Transcripts from that hearing are not yet available, but family and friends who were in the court that day with Tagle said the judge appeared not to have read the evidence she presented, including the “Necessary Evil” story and the emergency restraining order obtained by a sheriff’s deputy.

“Just from the very beginning, he didn’t want to listen,” said Rick Tagle, who was in the courtroom. “He started out by saying, ‘One of you is lying and I think it’s you,’ and pointing at Katie.”

The judge also allegedly warned Tagle there would be consequences for lying.

Lemkau did not respond to an e-mail request for comment; the county does not provide judges’ office telephone numbers.

The following Sunday, when Garcia missed his arranged custody transfer with Tagle, she had to call a deputy to get Wyatt back from Garcia’s house.

Friends say discouraged and frightened by her last appearance in court, she did not seek another restraining order or custody change.

“She was afraid she would go before the judge who called her a liar,” her sister said.


Now I will examine various points made in this story. First, I want to make one thing very clear to those victims out there thinking a restraining order is the solution. IT IS NOT! You must have a safety plan in place, as an RO is only a piece of paper. It is but one of many tools available to victims of abuse. You have to change how you live in order to survive and protect your children.

With that said let's examine this article.

“This was preventable. This didn’t have to happen,” Tagle’s mother, Maria Brown said the day after Wyatt’s death.


Yes, this was preventable. The prevention starts with education and planning. The planning should also have included education, not just for this mother, but for all involved in this case. In looking at Dastardly Dads we see that many dads who have hurt or killed their children have had shared custody. There need to be laws on the books protecting children from abusive people (or the current laws in place need to be followed better). Mothers and children are being hurt and killed needlessly.

“If I grant the restraining order, how do you think that’s going to help with respect to you two being able to raise Wyatt together or work together to make sure Wyatt grows up happy and healthy?” the judge asked, according to the transcripts.


This is where the next problem lies. Abusers do NOT deserve, nor should they EVER have any type of custody or control over a child, whether they abused that child or not. EVER! Still don't understand that? EVER!!!!! Is that clear enough for ya'? And judges who think that an abuser deserves or has the right to have any kind of custody should be forced to visit women who have been maimed by an abusive man. Or even perhaps have to help in the daily care of a child who has been shaken so severely they cannot function on there own without assistance. Or even better, visit the graves of those women and children who have been killed by an abuser.

Asked about an e-mail in which he confessed to hitting Tagle, Garcia told the judge he had slapped her during a fight, but it was Tagle’s fault for “pushing and pushing and pushing until she could get something from me.”


Herein lies the next problem. It is NEVER the victims fault that someone hits her. EVER! And I will say this again. IT IS NEVER A WOMAN'S FAULT IF A MAN HITS HER. EVER!!!!!!

This is the biggest problem we have with judges and restraining orders:

“I get concerned when there’s a pending child custody and visitation issue and in between that, one party or the other claims that there’s some violence in between. It raises the court’s eyebrows because based on my experience, it’s a way for one party to try to gain an advantage over the other,” he said, according to the transcripts.


If someone has police reports, emails, texts, letters, or some other evidence or any combination of the above alleging violence, a jusge should not think it is being used to gain a foothold in another venue. The process by which one must get a restrianing order is invasive. Several people will read the most intimate details os a woman's life. In order to stand a chance of getting a restraining order, she must give as much information as possible to this judge. This information will probably include details of her sex life among many otehr things witha judge (who is a complete stranger to this woman). And not only will the judge read this but it will be available for anyone who walks into the courthouse to read. She must spill her inner soul to police, clerks at the courthouse, in front of strangers in attendance during the hearing, and much more.

And the last and final serious issue that affects many victims of abuse is below:

Friends say discouraged and frightened by her last appearance in court, she did not seek another restraining order or custody change.

“She was afraid she would go before the judge who called her a liar,” her sister said.


I could be reading my own story here. How many times did I call the police when my hosue was burglarized? How many times did I have to clean up the yard from everything thrown around due to the anger issues from my ex? How many times did I receive calls from my abuser wanting to know why I was not at work when work began and why it was hours later before I showed up at work (when there WAS an active restraining order in place)? How would my abuser know that I was not at work? It goes back to my first comment - having a safety plan in place. My abuser believes the reason for me telling anyone who will listen to me that he was abusive during our marriage was to humiliate him, was to gain an advantage in family court, or for any number of reasons his deluded little brain could muster. NEWSFLASH!!!! It was PARt of my safety plan. The more people who knew of his actions, the more who saw the abuses taking place, the better my chances were for obtaining justice for our child and I. The jsutice which always seemed withing reach but was never obtainable. I too recognize the moving on part, the only diffference between Katie and I is that my child by some miracle is still here and phsyically in one piece (emotionally and mentally is another story - but that is fodder for another article). I can feel her pain when she pours out her heart to complete strangers about the violations upon her. Do we really need to have any more of this pain? Do we really need any more dead bodies laying around before we figure out that ABUSIVE DADS ARE MORE THE NORM than FR/MRA's would like to admit (perhaps even some of them fit in this category), and we stop the madness?

Or are we going to have more dead bodies, more crippled children, more traumatized mothers?

January 31, 2010

---CALLING ALL VICTIMS OF JANELLE BURRILL (URGENT REQUEST)---






There will be a hearing on February 19, 2010 (2/19/2010) at the Sacramento Superior Court located at 3341 Power Inn Road, Sacramento, CA 95826, Department 128 beginning at 8:00 AM in which JANELLE BURRILL will be called as an “expert” witness (she was the reunification therapist that abused and traumatized my daughter!). Since she is a witness, we will have the opportunity to cross-examine her and SHRED her credibility!

WE NEED YOUR INPUT!!! If you would be willing to be a witness and testify to the abuse, fraud, and negligence you experienced with your OWN case with regard to Janelle Burrill, we would like to hear from you ASAP!!!

Together, if we can successfully debase Janelle Burrill’s credibility, it could set a legal precedence that would help debase her credibility with ALL cases. Lets FILL THE COURT WITH WITNESSES and work together to rid Sacramento of this menace!!!

Please contact me by email at yippyyea1@yahoo.com. Thank you!

January 20, 2010

Newsflash? Hmmmm Gunner Retired aka oldepharte aka Anon Ymous






So you have had a newsflash? Why don't I share that with our readers?

...She has made it plain she no longer desires to speak with or have any dealings with her mother and her brother.

...I am concerned that she have extended this to her maternal grandparents after discovering that I once sought her maternal grandfathers intervention to restrain my daughters mother and her ,malicious campaign... to which he responded "I got no dog in that hunt".

...Although I do look forward to, when he asks me "why is she not coming to see us this summer?", replying with "what, now you got a dog in the hunt???".

...Pardon me for indulging in vindictive fantasies!


Ummm gee wiz Gunner Retired aka oldepharte aka Anon Ymous........ sounds to me an awful like you are engaging in that PA/PAs you try to push so hard and fast. I guess it is okay when the shoe is on the other foot huh?

And readers - one last delicious tidbit:

Ask Me who is My hero... I'll tell you Erich Hartmann. (click name to visit wikipedia article)


January 17, 2010

Some FRA's are severely deluded and confused :-)






This is a rather long post so be prepared to spend some reading time here.

Click here to read Claudine's post on Jeremy Swanson (Swineson) with the actual content posted below (but go to her website anyway - the images are just too rich!!!)

Jeremy Swanson and the GOOD ole’ boys ‘Sound the ALARMS’. be afraid, be VERY afraid. We are Everywhere. We ARE Anonymoms.
January 15, 2010 — Claudine Dombrowski
Going to try and publish this post- had some really good ones but keep loosing them( must be the distasteful content my PC is allergic to)

Try again….

Some scary stuff below- grab a cup o joe and sit back and prepare to be educated- and yes be very afraid of the ‘cell’ terrorists who like to twist as do all oppressors. They fail to realize that humanity is evolving- and they just stay the same- and like all evolution they will soon be eaten out of existence- like the dinosaurs (no slam to the dinos) just is-

Just a lil update into this post by the big bad wolf—oh wait in Jeremy’s words;

“ particularly vicious militant fringe lunatic by the name of Claudine Dombrowski of Topeka Kansas.”

WOW~! Now is that ever a cry or what?? and coming from a mad man with illegal weapons charges….. read about Mr. Swanson then below read the ALARM that was sounded by the real ‘hate groups”

I do not need to do anymore than “expose’- and that is exactly what I am doing.

Anonymums" out of Australia are allied with various groups and all are linked to one particularly vicious militant fringe lunatic by the name of Claudine Dombrowski of Topeka Kansas.

With LOVE from OZ to OZ Muuuaaaaaaaaaahh!

Ahh Mr Swanson- you give me way to much credit- as you see it is a ‘WE’ not a one and WE are Everywhere. We are Anonymoms.

<:-)

ohhh and do enjoy the track backs


And Swanson's (SWINESON'S) original antimisandry post here:

I received the following from Jeremy Swanson a Canadian FRA, and have no reason to doubt Mr. Swnason’s veracity.:
All activists and supporters. Canadian national US National and all International Activists. Whether you are on Facebook or not please remember that a certain "Blake Parker" is not a real person, but an "Anonymum" creation. If you have ‘him’ on your friend list, or are communicating via email you have anAnonymum stalker right in your immediate circle. "He/she (probably a female)" is a "friend"to "Ben Harper" also an Anonymum on Facebook.

"Anonymums" out of Australia are allied with various groups and all are linked to one particularly vicious militant fringe lunatic by the name of Claudine Dombrowski of Topeka Kansas.


Other related groups and individuals lnked together are "Mz Petunia Pigg" (AKA Randi James) http://twitter. com/MzPetuniaPig g FR naked (Fathers Rights Naked) "Angelfury"(AKA Claudine Dombrowski) http://www.AngelFur y.org, Glenns Cult. http://glennscult. blogspot. com and Justice 4 Mothers http://justice4moth ers.wordpress. com/ and Anonymums http://anonymums. blogspot. com/
Be very wary of all of these people and groups. They are ‘not your friends’. They are into disruptiion, slander and sabotage. People I do urge you to cut off and disconnect from contact if you are connected in any way with these people. And please warn others.

These are a group of radical feminists who stalk father’s rights activists and harrass them online as well as infiltrate among you and the groups you work with and then saboatage our efforts from within. Please take this very seriously. Cut them out of your links as quickly as you can and please warn others on your own lists.
From: Jeremy Swanson swanson@storm.ca


Yo SWINESON!!!! Get this through your thick damn skull. I am PETUNIA! Me here at http://glennscult.blogspot.com. I am NOT Randi James, nor am I Claudine Dombrowski. In case you have not heard the funder of Anonymums has passed and many, many others carry on her legacy. You see we are not just Anonymums - we are MOMS!!!! And we are sick and tired of abusive men stealing children from us. We WILL get the message to moms entering litigation with an abuser. And one need only look in any paper or turn on any tv news show to see that the number of men killing off most of or all of their families as if they were nothing more than a junk car to be sent to the auto graveyard has increased steadily over the years. In fact this year alone there was a new story (sometimes more than one) in the US, Canada, Australia, and the UK every day. EVERY DAMN DAY!!!!! What will it take for allegations of abuse to be taken seriously? What will it take for men who abuse to stop shifting blame from themselves where it truly lies to others (like the victim - the wife/mother)? Don't even bother to answer that you

MO-

RON

We already know what YOUR answer is. And your answer and those of the other FRA's out there will eventually lead to the destruction of humankind as we know it today.

Are FRA's whiners? Lets examine this in detail (or not)






pjk Says:

January 16th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Woman protesting treatment of women = Nobel Prize candidate
Man protesting treatment of men = Pathetic whiner


Okay now, pjk assumes (and we know what happens when one ASS U MEs anything) that a male protesting equates to him being a whiner. Let's examine the male protesters throughout history. We can start with Martin Luther King. He protested (peacefully I might add which we will cover later) the unequal treatment of minorities. He asked for fair and equal TREATMENT of all. We can then examine the case of Rosa Parks (oops she was a woman so not a good example - no actually she is a GREAT example). Rosa Parks made one simple yet extremely poignant statement when she changed seats on the bus. Did she do it for women? Did she do it for black women? NO! She did it for all people! We can then look at Nelson Mandela. He worked for the good of ALL people as well, ending apartheid in South Africa. He was jailed for 27 years for his role in those protests. And one other protester to examine is Tom Hayden. Name not quite familiar to you? He was involved in the civil rights and war movements of the 1960's, animal rights movements today as well as actively involved in politics as well as maintaining a speaking career.

Now let's look at this and see what all of these protestors have in common. Welllllllll, there are men and women in this group. Mixture of races as well, so that is not what they have in common. Ages? Nope they are all different ages as well. Some of these activists were killed - some were not, some served jail time - some did not. So what do these activists have in common?



LIGHTBULB MOMENT!!!!!

These activists/protestors were all protesting against unequal treatment of males AND females. Not just men!!! So could that be why FRA's are looked at as whiners when all the FACTS show that post-divorce men tend to do better than women? Post-divorce men tend to do better than the children?

Nah that wouldn't have anything at all to do with the price of tea in China because these mehnz are simply angry that they have to give that bitch any money. And if they are serious abusers, the simple fact alone that the woman is attempting to stand up for herself is against the grain anyways.

Well Petunia's message to these FRA WHINERS (and yes they are VERY MUCH whiners), get a clue, get a life, and love your child and RESPECT the mother of your children. Stop trying to dehumanize her. Quit being crybabies. Oh yeah and grow up. Some of our chidlren are more mature than you.

January 7, 2010

More on Steele - the "artist" and "author"






Okay so now if anyone who cares has been following this you can see that from my blog that Steele was arrested for spray painting all over the side of the courthouse building - "Steele Boys Rights Denide" (spelling error HIS) in Boston. The fathers rights movement is up in arms to protect their poor abused comrade in arms. First let's check out The Examiner and what is being said over there:
It seems Steele's wife wanted him to bring in most of the family income so she could continue to enjoy the stay-at-home parent lifestyle. Was that fair? Equal parenting adocates ask, "Shouldn't marriage be about give and take, compromise, co-parenting? Why couldn't Steele be the stay-at-home parent while he worked on his writing career?" One wonders what exactly prevented Mrs. Steele from stepping up and using her education to benefit her family.


I posted earlier why Mrs. Steele was staying home. They had two chidlren who were considered special needs children and Mr. Steele by all court records and accounts of those present at the court hearing was incapable and unwilling to accept that fact. (posted here).

Then we move onto the actual men involved in this thing and that is where it gets scary and amusing.

Part 1:


Judge Dineen decided to release Steele on Jan 12 pending receipt of $2800 in restitution being sent by his mother. There will be no probation either. Steele's case wasn't heard until about 10:20 and was moved ahead because there were four of us there support of Steele. As I witnessed Dineen's handling of the cases before his court, it struck me that he was a fair and compassionate judge. He proved that with his decision in the Steele case.


Now let's look at this statement. First Steele's MOTHER has to pay for his transgessions. Isn't that classic? Then there is no probation? I wonder if Joe Blow spray painting the courthouse would have been so lucky? Another instance of fathers being given every chance in the world to step up to the plate. And of course you have the ever present bloated heads of those who showed up (all FOUR of them) who truly believe that they influenced the court to move up Steele's hearing. Petunia thinks is it much more likely that the judge wanted these guys gone but hey I am no mind reader. Too bad these men claim to be just that.

We then move on to the scary here:

They had to get him out easy. If there was a trial, we could easily prove the abuse and criminal conduct of that court system. We could have supplied hundreds of victims of that corrupt court. I wonder if the state knew about us wanting to support this guy. I've always said it will take some kind of physical attack and subsequent trial to break up their RICO. I'm surprised they even want him to pay restitution. If he had conviction (balls), he would say no deal and force a trial against the state. It took a shooting of a judge to change things in Nevada.


Now does anyone see anything wrong with this?!?!?!?!?!? Is this person actually suggesting and condoning violence against others? And to clarify - the shooting of a judge also entailed the MURDER of the shooter's wife who was in the process of divorcing him. This person (the shooter) had joint custody. So much for the theory that joint custody solves everything.

You can even do a search for him and see so many misguided individuals who are actually defending him. If he had stuck around, if he had not ignored his son's special needs, if he had not decided on a whim to be a writer when he has 4 children to support, if, if, if, if, we could go on with the "ifs" all night. Fact of the matter is, the divorce judge was presented with the details of this case. She decided his divorce on the merits that both parties presented. If Steele was unhappy about the decision there are appeals and other LEGAL measuers he could have pursued. But the fact remains he did none of this and instead chose to become a martyr. Thankfully by the comments on the news articles he is not fooling everyone. Maybe there is hope yet.

January 4, 2010

They complain about women denying vistitation?






Offended Dad Says:

December 28th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
.... I was going to add - for all the crap my ex has pulled, she still has visitation, and has the next 9 days to try to poison my kids against me.

I'm really sick of the powers that be continuing to minimize and rationalize the crap she pulls.


So what would your answer be Offended Dad? Deny the mother visitations? But oh I forget - you are protecting the child and your relationship with him/her and their relationship with you. How silly of me to think that a MOTHER'S relationship with the child they nurtured while carrying inside of them FOR 9 MONTHS even matters. Silly silly Petunia......

December 30, 2009

More of Mark Godbey's rants about the evil protective parents






If the grandparents from Brazil do show up in the United States (they never will) one can only hope that the US government and the FBI takes a lead role in the prosecution of violations of US Code against family kidnappings and conspiracy to kidnap that “protective parents” deserve.


If i am reading this the right way, MG is saying that parents should not protect their children? okay I will read more and see if this is really what he meant. Because every parent who is a "GOOD" parent will want to protect their children from whatever is lurking in those dark corners. I know I do.

More curiously still, Sean Goldman has now returned to the United States and, by this account on ABC-TV, is happy to be on American soil and in fact gives every sign of remembering the original family home from which he had been abducted, and even the family pet cat. (David Goldman, his father, had not moved in the interim.) The only sour note is that the boy has not yet taken to addressing his father as “Dad,” but that might still come.


He is said to appear happy. By whose account? Strangers who paid to take this child from his SISTER?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Don't even get me started on taking a child away from a sibling - especially whent hose siblings share a parent who is deceased.

December 20, 2009

Boston Parent Still Fighting to See His Children After Biased Court Decision


Spray-paint Man



Boston Parent Still Fighting to See His Children After Biased Court Decision
(link provided only for verification, entire spew posted here so no need to visit his site and jack his stats)

Protest Action by Mr. Andrew Steele, Boston
This are of the web site is about Mr. Andrew Steele. A Boston parent who lost any real contact with his four sons after a Divorce and wanted to make a peaceful statement about the violation of basic rights that occurred. I was able to speak to a good friend of his, Ms. Mandy Varona mandyvarona@yahoo.com who lives in Seattle and is familiar with Andrew and his history. I came away very impressed by his motivation and methods. This was a preplanned and thoughtful action his part. I encourage anyone, especially those in the Boston area, to contact Andrew & Ms. Varona.

December 10th, 2009: (Human Rights Day) The initial news report was:

"An unhappy parent was caught red-handed tagging a courthouse after being denied a holiday visit with his sons. Andrew Steele, 45, of Tacoma, Wash. used three cans of spray paint to write "Steele boys rights denied" in large letters on the Brockton District Court in Boston, Mass.... TheBostonChannel.Com & PatriotLedger.Com

Ms. Varona explained that Andrew had not planned to use regular spray paint! He was going to purchase cans "easy remove" paint -- the same type that is used to spray "Just Married" on cars.

He also prepared a two page "Purpose of Protest Statement" before his action -- which he knew was Human Right's Day, the start of Human Rights week. An excerpt from that statement:


PURPOSE OF PROTEST:

•My son rights have been and continue to be denied them.
•My rights have been and continue to be denied me.
•My children's mother's life has been made very difficult.
•Some family members have been and continue to be harmed.
FACT: Children need to feel special in Mom's life and Dad's. When they have this they do alright. When they are denied this they are at greater risk of having troubles. (click here to read complete statement)

CURRENT STATUS/CONTACT INFO:

"Mr. Steele was arraigned in Brockton, MA, court on charges of tagging, destruction over $250 and malicious damage. Steele was ordered held in lieu of $50,000 cash bail or $500,000 surety. He will return to court on Jan. 6." -- from TheBostonChannel.Com

I was told he does not plan on making bail and wishes to continue his protest as a prisoner. We encourage everyone to write him at:

Andrew Steele, #53441
Plymouth House of Corrections
Housing Unit BS1
26 Long Pond Rd.
Plymouth, MA 02360

He has a good friend, Ms. Mandy Varona. She is trying to help Andrew get as much publicity as possible. She is very familiar with his family background and struggles. She can be contacted at: Ms. Mandy Varona mandyvarona@yahoo.com , phone: (206) 313-9888

BACKGROUND:

For many years Andrew worked in construction. He married and the couple had four sons (who now range in age from 8-13). In his 40s he realized he would not be able to work construction for long and wanted to make a career change and become a Children's Book writer. He wrote and published one book (Amazon link below). His wife was not happy with this career change and sought divorce.

The divorce began in 2006 and almost immediately the Judge ordered "supervised visits" and Andrew could only see his four sons every other weekend, from 10am - 5pm, in a visit supervised by someone acceptable to his wife. There had been no type of threatening conduct on his part.

The divorce decree was issued in Nov of 2009 and no change was made to the visitation schedule or procedure. There was NO extra time for any vacations or holidays. Andrew had hoped for a return to more normal contact with his children -- this triggered his plan of action. (Click here for decree - NOTE: Andrew challenges the veracity of the some of the reported "Facts" listed. These documents are usually character assassination of the 'losing' party, but Andrew wanted to be completely upfront in the matter).


This story "sounds" so sad, right? Well Godbey in all of his infinite wisdom has provided us with enough information to investigate this on our own. He has given us the divorce decree (and that is shame on Godbey and Steele for publishing a document with the names of minor children available as well as putting their names in the public eye). Godbey has also given us Steele's statement concerning the protest vandalism of the courthouse. Steele states through his spokesperson (how nice that an alleged criminal has a spokesperson as if he were some sort of celebrity - well I guess in FR eyes he IS a celebrity) that he did not INTEND to use permanent spray paint. Temporary or permanent, he STILL engaged in the act of vandalism. He took the cans of paint and painted ALL OVER the outside of the courthouse regarding HIS rights. The judge investigated through testimony in their divorce trial, which parent would be a residential parent and exactly when the children should be with the parents. This is not about the children's rights being denied, this is about an angry father.

How angry you might ask? Here are some excerpts from his divorce decree:

The children have been upset by the upheaval in the family structure and their father's long term, long distance absences. They have also been upset by their father's discussion of the divorce with them, as well as his tearfulness in their presence.


The party's oldest son XXXXXX (*) was diagnosed with epilepsy in the summer of 2007. As of the time of trial, Husband had not attended any of his son's doctor appointments or medical tests. Wife has diligently kept him informed regarding same. Wife sought conventional medical treatment for XXXXXXX (*). When she sought Husband's input and comments, he suggested neuropathic treatment for XXXXXX (*). He does not provide any information as to why neuropathic treatment would be better for XXXXXX (*). All he does is send website addresses to her.


On June 22, 2007, in response to Wife's report that XXXXXXX (*) may need glasses by age 10, Husband replied, "as for XXXXXXX (*), he needs to spend less time looking at things up close; he needs to spend time with me in the mountains".


There are even more disturbing or questionable things in this decree. He alludes to suicide attempts in voice mails to his wife and his mother (notice HIS mother, not HER mother). He dropped the insurance requirement because the cost had tripled and his reasoning is that the boys need him now more than they need money after he dies. He was also downright nasty to her when she asked if he had a response to the proposed marital settlement agreement. His answer to that simple question?

"When you see heifers in your back yard and hear some fat lady singing. Actually if you do see cows in your backyard let me know that would be quite a sight. And fat women have beautiful voices and do amazing things for our country.


He also compares the fact that the courts wanted to protect the children from instability to the persecution of the Jews by the Nazis because according to him, he thinks she does not feel he adds up to her standards. So what are her standards? Well before he went on a soul searching mission to write a very unsuccessful children's book (more on that later), he was a highly recognized and skilled carpenter. He created projects in high end homes before quitting that to write a children's book. After this unsuccessful journey, he went back to work as a carpenter, but not in high end homes.

He had not paid any of his child support or alimony (wife stayed home with the children and worked sporadically part time) for 18 months and total arrearages was more than 34,000 dollars.

It is also stated in the court order that the Husband's behavior became more and more erratic, he was not able to balance emotions and reason and he was behaving in a passive aggressive fashion towards his Wife.

The decree also states (the thing he is complaining about in his graffiti is his visitation) that his visits have been sporadic at best and future visits should be supervised by a third party (reading between the lines here but the passive aggressive behavior must have been of more concern than was let on as Wife did not have to supervise the visits). The judge did award visits with the children and father to occur on the first and third Saturdays from 10AM to 5PM and any other times as pre-arranged. He is also allowed to phone the children any day (every day) between the hours of 4PM and 8PM. He is also able to have all medical and school records, he just has no legal right to direct their care or education (due to his instability mentioned earlier).

The Wife gets the proceeds from the sale of their home and the tax refund, and the arrearages are reserved.

The husband also gets to claim all four children on his taxes every year, so long as he remains current on his child support obligation. They have numerous debts which the judge splits between the two of them. He must maintain insurance of 250,000 with wife as irrevocable beneficiary.

For the behaviors listed (and there are many more in the decree published and available online, this is actually not a bad deal. The judge could have granted RO's, he could have said the father is not allowed to talk to or see the children until he goes through counseling. There is no mention made of any counseling needing to be undertaken.

Now you must be wondering why Petunia is writing about this? So far most of this is pretty ordinary accusations. Well, the book is the deal breaker. The book he wrote is what is getting Steele his own spotlight page in Petunia's pen. What is this book you may ask? Well, you can go HERE to check it out.

Product Description
The discovery of an alternate reality in outer space is linked to self-discovery in this story of the four Roar boys, who live in an orphanage in Brooklyn. When they are mysteriously recruited for spaceship pilot training, the boys learn that their parents were once space explorers and may have held secret knowledge about life on other planets. As their training intensifies, the boys realize they must stay together at all costs to survive against the evil forces racing across the heavens toward earth.


The interesting part is in the reviews. We have one from a customer who purchased this book as a gift for his nephew:

I just bought this book for my nephew's birthday. And, he could not even finish reading it and wished to return it to the store. And, unlike the cover pictures, I could not believe the storyline is rather banal and characters are not-so-creative. The author probably tried to recap the brotherhood once he cherished in his time. But it is distracting and inconsistent in the story development. And, I don't find any genuine lesson that children can truly believe. Maybe the author did not believe in it or did not know how to engage himself with the readers-children. I would not recommend this book to any children I know. Major Disappointment!


This buyer has also reviewed several other products on Amazon.com. He (she) is attacked however by these reviews and comments:

I ordered The Galaxy Boys and the Sphere through Amazon.com a couple of weeks ago. The shipping date listed at that time was - and it still is - December 13, 2007. The delay in shipping is due to the book being hot off the presses. So, HSLee must have discovered the book somewhere, soon after it rolled off the presses, in the UK perhaps, because it is only now reaching the U.S from Europe. I've noted, and encourage all others who may read HSLee's review to do the same, that HSLee has never reviewed a novel, not a story for children, at least not on Amazon.com, though he has reviewed a couple of books on architecture, and some CDs, and some DVDs, and some electronic devices, and an exercise rope. One may learn about a person by what he purchases, and then reviews, and likes, or not. HSLee - we don't really know who he is nor where he lives nor what he does for a living - is unclear in his review as to whether he himself reviewed The Galaxy Boys and the Sphere or if he left it up to his nephew. If he left it up to his nephew, how old is his nephew? What kind of boy is he? We would think we could trust an adult's opinion, but maybe this boy just doesn't like to read, though we can't know that. Or perhaps HSLee himself doesn't really like to read, or just doesn't like to read a story like The Galaxy Boys and the Sphere; we can't know his tastes, because, as pointed out above, he has not reviewed any other literature, on Amazon.com at least. Finally, if HSLee is to call a work amateurish, perhaps he should spell amateurish correctly and not as he did, 'amaeurish'. I look forward to reading this book, when it arrives, and encourage all others to seek a way to form their own opinion. The only way to do that, in my opinion, is to read the book, if it appears to be something in which you are interested.


and the original reviewer answered with this:

Is Sally Withers(reviwer below mine) = the author, Andrew Steele? or his publisher?

First, you pointed out that I misspelled the word, Amateurish, I did not see the error as it was in the title blank but corrected it, thank you.
Now, your turn, you typed, Charles Rose to be a tallented architect. HAHA. And, your writing is no better than me. So, who is lecturing whom?

This person who left a very aggressive comment in my first review of this book seems to know when and where the books were published in USA or UK with given dates. And, that very person claims he(oops, she) also knows Charlie Rose, the local Boston Architect, the book of whom I left a review on Amazon.com quite a while ago. Then he/she definitely went over my other reviews to figure out what I buy and who I am. Wow, that is bullying. Check his comment(false accusation) in my review for Charles Rose Architect(paperback) to see it yourself. Sally Withers must be from Boston, not from Northwest as she says.

And, Sally Withers, now the second reviewer of this book(the Galaxy..) left a 5/5 rating describing the book as if she is either a child with a extensive vocabulary skill, rather close to the words the author uses in his book and the style.
If she was a genuine parent, you know her review doesn't sound right but it rather sounds like the abstract of the whole book. How strange!

If Sally Withers works for the publishing houses or the author, his/her rating should be invalidated, faking the company's promotion as a positive 5/5 review from a buyer. Or, if Sally Withers is indeed the actual author, you don't have any decency to leave any room for the readers to judge. What kind of person are you to pretentiously leave the 5 star feedback to your own work?

Coincidentally, the third person, Nancy Harter, is also from WA; Sally Withers herself is from Northwest and so is the author!!! And the both the second and the third reviewers do not have any other reviews on amazon.com. They created their user name to promote the book.

Even Nancy Harter wrote the book review way before me. Why didn't you accuse her of not reading the book and writing a review with the same accusation toward me, which is false? Isn't that because they both were written to promote the book? a Nice try!!! And, thanks for allowing me to track you all down because of your own trick to frame my genuine reviews.

On the other hands, I have a great history in writing reviews over many years, yes, mostly on small gadgets and electronics, books(amazon.com knows) and toys for my new nephew and nieces in recent years. So, whose opinion is more credible, Mr. Author?

...My conclusion, Sally Withers, Nancy Harter are Andrew Steele, the author of this book, for simply showing that level of aggression and disclosing the detailed release dates and where the books are sold in the comments in my review(please check it out and judge yourself) but I still cannot tell how Sally(the author?) knows that particular architect in Boston, or is she/he simply lying to invalidate my book review? If Sally Withers is not Andrew Steele, are you the author's wife or the publisher's wife?

You really started a very ugly game and only showed me a mean, lying,controlling personality. Who are you really? Shouldn't you have a good heart to write a children's book?

Whoever you are, don't you bully a genuine review! Why can't you accept that the kid did not like how the book reads? Stop this mean act! This is getting too ridiculous.


Neither of the individual reviewers who raved about this book have any other reviews on Amazon.com. She then goes on to attack the negative reviewer on another of his reviews. Links are all below:


Link to divorce decree
Link to the statement of purpose (reason for the graffiti)
Spray Paint Story Link 1
Spray Paint Story Link 2
Google search results for stories on incident (over 19,000 results)
Link to review of book by Nancy
Link to review of book by Sally
Link to negative review of Steele's book
Link for Steele's publishing attempt
Attacks by Sally towards HSLee on a review of another book



You Tube - Police: Court Vandal Caught Red-Handed -- Literally





December 12, 2009

Mental Disorder/Illness Opposition to Parental Alienation Syndrome – Part 1






Mental Disorder/Illness Opposition to Parental Alienation Syndrome – Part 1

When I first discovered the term of Parental Alienation Syndrome, I thought that everyone was in agreement that it was valid since proof of alienating tactics can be seen in parents that train children to hate, and vilify the other parent.

Isn’t it obvious that anyone who does this is mentally ill? To judges, attorneys and parents everyone seems to agree, a parent that does this to a child is an abuser. Since the vast majority of women have sole custody, most of the abusers are women. But Parental Alienationn is a gender-neutral sickness, because I have friends that are women that are alienated from the children. By the dads.

Further reading showed that Parental Alienation Syndrome is generated and perpetuated by an axis of disorders listed in the current DSM book. These include paranoia, histrionic, and borderline disorders. There are a few more that can be added to this disorder, but I have read that these are the core disorders that make up this syndrome.

The American Psychological Association uses a test, shortnamed the MMPI-II test that can actually indicate any of the above mentioned disorder exist. Collectively and through actions by the abusive parent, this makes up Parental Alienation Syndrome.

By itself, the test does not indicate mental illness.

But answers to the test point to actions and activities that mentally ill persons see as OK. Denial, lying, slander, libel, self-medicating, etc. are OK with these folk since to them, the end justifies the means. Sociopathic behavior is fine and dandy, with Parental alienators.

For dozens of children’s and parent’s rights activists, a group of “Anon…..s.” or members of the Pig Pen as we call them spend their days attacking fathers and children through lies and slander. They also attack women from time to time, so women are “abusers,” too.

They have also been creating fake IDs on Facebook, and joining father’s groups to stalk them there. Just recently, a person known as “Randi James” (not real name, obviously) was de-friend-ed by dozens of men (and a few women) when she spewed her bittternes against fathers in a comment thread on Facebook.

If you read some of the hatred that comes from their hate websites you can see why they lost their kids and

1.Denial – Everyone else to blame for their problems. They are “victims” or “battered women”.
2.Paranoia – Most alienates are paranoid and hide while they lie. they imagine they are being stalked.
3.Lying – See 1, also they will say anything to win in family court, especially false allegations of abuse, etc. Besides lying in court, they when they blog, or write or when they talk to you.
4.Hate – See, 1 2.3. above.
There are some websites that glorify in blaming others for “their problems”. Primarily being no one believes them. Either they were “battered” women, or married to “abusers” or the children are now in the hands of “abusers”.

You will also find vicious attacks on Dr. Richard Gardner (he is dead, it is OK to attack a dead person.) All the stuff about Dr. Garnder is made up. Attacks on fathers, activists for children, etc. are their primary targets. They go after live dads, too, but never with their own names, since they fear libel and slander laws.

Despite the fact that women are playing on their “home field” in Family Court, these women of the “pig pen” lost a fight that bookies had them winning.

Why is this? See the list above. Nuff said. Part 2 to come.


Now it is time to take this apart - point by point. I know it will never shut this guy up though.

His first paragraph:

When I first discovered the term of Parental Alienation Syndrome, I thought that everyone was in agreement that it was valid since proof of alienating tactics can be seen in parents that train children to hate, and vilify the other parent.


Where is this so-called "proof" of which you speak Markie poo? And you "discovered" Parental Alienation Syndrome? I thought that was your buddy, famed pedophile supporting, suicide committing Richard Gardner? 'Nuff said - next paragraph.

Isn’t it obvious that anyone who does this is mentally ill? To judges, attorneys and parents everyone seems to agree, a parent that does this to a child is an abuser. Since the vast majority of women have sole custody, most of the abusers are women. But Parental Alienationn is a gender-neutral sickness, because I have friends that are women that are alienated from the children. By the dads.


How is this a mental illness? Maybe a parent has good reason to not want a child to be around the other parent? And what YOU might deem as alienation, another might feel is protection. You say po-tay-toe, I say po-tah-toe. You also point out that this is a women's disorder since most women have custody, yet you switch teams and then contradict yourself. Which is it? Do women mostly do this (whatever "this" is in your remaining brain cell) or are women also affected by this? I think you do not even know yourself. 'Nuff said.

Further reading showed that Parental Alienation Syndrome is generated and perpetuated by an axis of disorders listed in the current DSM book. These include paranoia, histrionic, and borderline disorders. There are a few more that can be added to this disorder, but I have read that these are the core disorders that make up this syndrome.


Again let me point out that you have chosen to list only those disorder that affect primarily women. In fact if you look at one of the terms you use (histrionic), this is generally associated with women (as histrionic is based on the term hysteria, hysterical and women are stereotypically perceived as hysterical when we are upset). Shall we list the disorders that are associated with an abusive parent (truly abusive - one who enjoys wielding power and control over his victims)? How about Narcisstic Personality Disorder? Or how about alcohol and drug abuse/dependency? 'Nuff said.

The American Psychological Association uses a test, shortnamed the MMPI-II test that can actually indicate any of the above mentioned disorder exist. Collectively and through actions by the abusive parent, this makes up Parental Alienation Syndrome.


Were you aware that battered women can test as paranoid, hysterical, and with borderline tendencies due to the trauma and ongoing fear she may have due to an abusive spouse? Some of the key questions on the MMPI-III ask if you feel people are watching you, if you are being followed, etc etc. If a battered woman answers these honestly with an abusive spouse who is stalking her, an expert UNTRAINED in dv would deem her as suffering from paranoia. On the same token, many of the symptoms of BPD are shared with PTSD. In fact, if an expert is trained in trauma victims he or she will realize that the answers supplied which could lead a person to believe the test taker is suffering from borderline when taken in context with an in face interview and knowledge of trauma and abuse will lead the test giver to conclude the test taker suffers from PTSD. Got it Markie poo? Good, 'nuff said.

By itself, the test does not indicate mental illness.


Ahhh here he acknowledges (yet he does not clarify) that the test by itself does not conclude the test taker to be suffering from any mental defect or disorder. But then again he does not need to clarify, I do that quite well. One need only go to On Soul's Edge - Complex PTSD to read about this issue. Markie poo and others in the father's rights movement are fond of claiming the ex-wives are also suffering from bipolar disorder. A very interesting read can be found here: Complex (Chronic) Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder
(PTSD)
. 'Nuff said on this one.

But answers to the test point to actions and activities that mentally ill persons see as OK. Denial, lying, slander, libel, self-medicating, etc. are OK with these folk since to them, the end justifies the means. Sociopathic behavior is fine and dandy, with Parental alienators.
Okay I must ask, how are we lying, slandering, comitting libel, self-medicating, and in denial as well? If we lie, then the test would be useless as all the answers would be lies. I must also ask how we commit slander? Is this against you or some unnamed person? And you know this how? The definition of slander is utilizing the spoken word to utter untruths about someone which causes him or her harm. You are not anywhere close to me geographically to know whether I say anything and whether those statements are true or not. Also the person (either you or Mr. Mystery) would have to prove that my actions have caused irreperable harm to you or the mysterious Mr. Mystery. You would also need to prove that this harm was not caused by something you did yourself. You court record speaks for itself Markie poo. 'Nuff said.

For dozens of children’s and parent’s rights activists, a group of “Anon…..s.” or members of the Pig Pen as we call them spend their days attacking fathers and children through lies and slander. They also attack women from time to time, so women are “abusers,” too.


Here you go again bringing up Anonymums. Have you not kept up with the news dude? Sadly the woman responsible for creating Anonymums has passed on (and this unforeseen event was totally by surprise and we are all still reeling from her loss). I am sure however that once her family adjusts, someone will be there to pick up the pieces left by Anonymums and carry on her selfless and valiant lifelong effort. And there you go again with your name calling (pig pen allegations again). Tsk tsk tsk Markie poo. 'Nuff said.

They have also been creating fake IDs on Facebook, and joining father’s groups to stalk them there. Just recently, a person known as “Randi James” (not real name, obviously) was de-friend-ed by dozens of men (and a few women) when she spewed her bittternes against fathers in a comment thread on Facebook.


Okay do you have "proof" of these fake Facebook pages? We write on blogs and as such we are using psuedonyms. So while in your mind these Facebook profiles might be fake, it is only because you want our true identities revealed so you and others like you can shut us down through intimidation and fear. I already know several abused and protective mothers who have been through THAT ringer. 'Nuff said.

If you read some of the hatred that comes from their hate websites you can see why they lost their kids and

1.Denial – Everyone else to blame for their problems. They are “victims” or “battered women”.
2.Paranoia – Most alienates are paranoid and hide while they lie. they imagine they are being stalked.
3.Lying – See 1, also they will say anything to win in family court, especially false allegations of abuse, etc. Besides lying in court, they when they blog, or write or when they talk to you.
4.Hate – See, 1 2.3. above.


Funny how our websites are considered hate websites when all we do is copy what you (and others like you) have placed on the internet, yet you are not writing a hate website yourself. Do you forget so quickly the creation of the fake Anonymums website (courtesy of Markie poo folks)? Or how about the numerous posts about the members of the pig pen? How is that for hate Markie poo? And yet again we go through these supposed symptoms of an alienator. A victim of domestic violence whose abuser has followed them, has others track her as well, could be percieved as being paranoid, or cautious. I myself prefer to think of a woman expressing anxiety over the fact that her ex-abuser is turning up everywhere she goes to taunt and harras as cautious. But that is just me. And again how are we in denial? We know what happened to us and to our children by the freak abusers. You were not there (just as you are not here now) so you have absolutely no stinking idea what has happened or is happening or will happen. Again you are ASS U ME ing. 'Nuff said.

There are some websites that glorify in blaming others for “their problems”. Primarily being no one believes them. Either they were “battered” women, or married to “abusers” or the children are now in the hands of “abusers”.


Again I must point out that you have no idea who some of us are, and as such you do not have access to our court records. I can only speak of myself but you will see numerous calls to law enforcement before the initial restraining order (the first of 3) and then a period of several months before the divorce filing. I did manage to have some victories despite the decks being stacked against me (he had the money basically). But I will not list the errors made by my attorney on my site, if a battered woman wants to know what mistakes those might be, they may contact me directly. I will then determine if the email is legitimate as I will not provide any abuser with the means to take or keep a child away from a protective parent. 'Nuff said.

You will also find vicious attacks on Dr. Richard Gardner (he is dead, it is OK to attack a dead person.) All the stuff about Dr. Garnder is made up. Attacks on fathers, activists for children, etc. are their primary targets. They go after live dads, too, but never with their own names, since they fear libel and slander laws.


I will tear this up starting with your last comment and moving to the first. You say we "go after" living fathers? We only post on this site the spews of those men who make their views public and then only when they have reached epidemic proportions (such as yourself). We do not go after dads who are private and who are keeping the identities of their child private. Nor do we go after any man who was not arrested for, charged with, or convicted of abuse of any form. Apparently your ex-wife has felt the need to have numerous restraining orders placed on you, so you are fair game. You also fill the second part of my criteria, you not only have made your identity known, you have exposed the children your ex-wife and you brought into this world, and lastly you have the record and the mouth. Your mouth (or should I say, your fingers, are what gets you mentioned here. Nothing more, nothing less.

Now onto your statement that all the stuff about Richard Gardner is made up. His autopsy report:Richard Gardner Autopsy Report (scroll down to see actual images of the report) His views on children and sexuality: Richard Gradner Children Sexuality. You can also go to Liz Library at these two links:http://www.google.com/custom?q=richard+gardner&cof=L%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.thelizlibrary.org%2Fthelizlibrary-search.gif%3BAH%3Aleft%3B&sitesearch=thelizlibrary.org http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/012.htm to read more. 'Nuff said.

Shew almost there. Petunia's hooves are killing her :-(

Despite the fact that women are playing on their “home field” in Family Court, these women of the “pig pen” lost a fight that bookies had them winning.

Why is this? See the list above. Nuff said. Part 2 to come.


Again you go with your name calling and libel against us and again you go ASS U ME ing that we LOST in court. Some of us did and others of us are just not happy due to not being able to protect our children from the wrath of an abuser.

So I will anxiously be awaiting Part 2 as I will tear that one apart as well.

'NUFF SAID!!!!!




I think this picture says it all. Readers wouldn;t you be scared if you saw THIS?????

December 8, 2009

Why we should not lie to our children - it is not Parental Alienation (Syndrome) to tell them the truth






I promised to cover this article on its own after the last post. I will try to give it justice. Here is a link to the article in question:

http://mkg4583.wordpress.com/2009/12/07/real-protective-parents-never-call-themselves-protective-parents/.

Here is the text of the article for those who do not wish to go to the website. You can go to verify that as of 11AM CST, I have a true and correct copy of this article.

Many father’s and families rights activists hear the term protective parents used by those parents who make false allegations in court all the time.

Court Judges, Commissioners, Attorneys and Psychologists KNOW that what you say about the other parent is what you are saying about your own CHILD. Children know this intuitively. If children know you hate mom or dad, then your children know you hate them. After all, they are half the other parent. Children are not stupid, but one wonders about “Protective parents.”

It is time to set the record straight.

Real Protective Parents

1. Never make allegations against the other parent in court, and NEVER make them in the presence of their children.

2. Never refer to themselves as protective parents. It is a code word, listed below.

3. Support efforts to have Parental Alienation recognized by courts and the American Psychological Association, and never keep a child away from the other.

4. Never refer to their ex-spouse as abuser, drug addict, alcoholic, neither in court, on the Internet, and NEVER before their children.

5. Encourage the children to see the other parent, actively support the children’s involvement with the other parent.

6. Cooperate with the other parent to raise the children through co-parenting.

7. Never use a restraining order against the other parent as a sword, instead only obtain one as a shield for themselves alone.

The term protective parent is code word that non-custodial mothers groups invented after losing their children in family court action when they violated one of the basic cannons recognized by family court as be a fit parent.


Now lets take this apart point by point and see where your logic is in the mild form somewhat flawed, and in the most severe EXTREMELY dangerous to children.

1. Never make allegations against the other parent in court, and NEVER make them in the presence of their children.

If your wife was found to have sold your children into prostitution or child slavery, would you still stand by the creed - never badmouth the other parent? Would you still insist that one parent must always be positive about the other parent? I can imagine how this conversation would go. Mommy (daddy), so and so stuck (insert item here) into my private area, when child is being questioned about vaginal or rectal bleeding. If the guilty party IS the other parent what IS the non-offending mother or father supposed to say to the child? Can you please explain that one to me Godbey?

What is the non-offending parent supposed to do when the child comes home and uses racial slurs? IGNORE IT? When we see socially unacceptable behavior coming from a stranger, we educate our children as to why that behavior is inappropriate. Why should this same standard not be applied to us as parents? You have mentioned many times in your blog that I (as one of the so-called Pig Pen mothers) am not allowed contact with my child. And I have informed you that is the furthest thing from the truth. And as a CUSTODIAL mother, I tell my child when I have made bad decisions. When I make mistakes, I try to show these mistakes to my children in the hopes they will not have to repeat those same mistakes. It does not always work because everyone must make their own mistakes.

But when you are discussing safety issues for children and the perpetrator of the violence against a child IS a parent, the worst thing the other parent can do is keep silent about the abuse. I am not suggesting the protective parent (covered here should go out of their way to bad mouth the other parent, but when abuse is uncovered, the non-offending parent has a duty to the child to explain how this was not appropriate on the part of the perpetrator.

2. Never refer to themselves as protective parents. It is a code word, listed below.

I am unclear as to why this is a code word and why you are allowed to claim to be a protective parent? Why is the term "protective parent only viewed as bad when it is a mother who is claiming this?

3. Support efforts to have Parental Alienation recognized by courts and the American Psychological Association, and never keep a child away from the other.

This is covered all over the Internet so I will not go into this here. Suffice it to say, the best articles I have discovered to date on this issue are located at www.randijames.com and www.rightsformothers.com.

4. Never refer to their ex-spouse as abuser, drug addict, alcoholic, neither in court, on the Internet, and NEVER before their children.

Tell me again why we should not tell our children if the other parent is engaging in reckless behavior (such as abuse, addictions, excessive uncontollable drinking). I missed the "WHY's" of your reasoning behind this particular rule of rearing children. If one parent is diagnosed as an alcoholic, should we not try to help our chidlren so they may possibly avoid this same path? A "PROTECTIVE MOTHER" with whom I speak on a regular basis is an alcoholic. She however has quit drinking. She has learned that her children have an extremely high risk of engaging in the same behavior, whether she abstains or not, as it has been determined to be partially linked to genetics (studies here. Are you telling me that as children grow and evelop, we should not inform them of any medical issues which could imapct their life? My alcoholic friend has already started with her child, as both her and her ex-spouse have problems with alcohol (the mothers issues are in remission at this point, the father's sadly not so).

5. Encourage the children to see the other parent, actively support the children’s involvement with the other parent.

Is this an all the time kind of thing, whether the other parent is safe for the child or not? To whom should a non-offending parent turn in cases of severe abuse (or even not so sever albeit chronic abuse)? This just sounds like another victim waiting to happen to me.

6. Cooperate with the other parent to raise the children through co-parenting.

Again the same argument from above can be applied to this "requirement". This is just another way to say that (especially in cases like your and some of the other father's rights activists), a mother (custodial parent) MUST do what the non-custodial parent (father) says - OR ELSE. Or else - what?

7. Never use a restraining order against the other parent as a sword, instead only obtain one as a shield for themselves alone.

I do believe we are getting to the crux of this matter. Godbey is upset over the numerous RO's his exwife has had to obtain due to his behaviors, which his exwife allegedly feels are harmful to the children. Are we as parents not to try to protect our children whenever possible? I realize that children must make mistakes in order to grow. When do we as good parents draw the line between growth and downright harmful behaviors? When do we say - enough is enough? Apparently in the eyes of this blogger, if the person who is abusive is a NCP(father), it should be NEVER.



The term protective parent is code word that non-custodial mothers groups invented after losing their children in family court action when they violated one of the basic cannons recognized by family court as be a fit parent.


Now we are onto to something here. Godbey again ASS U MEs that the active protective parents who blog about protecting chidlren, who share about children's rights being more important than those of mothers or of fathers, are in some sort of conspiracy and we are so evil that the courts have removed our children from us. Not that I have anything to prove to you, but I AM a custodial mother, my ex is a 14%er as some are so fond of calling themselves. There is still abuse occurring, however this abuse is not illegal. Until our child can stand on alone, I will continue to tell which choices of mine AND those of the ex-husband are appropriate and right and which are inappropriate and wrong. I will also inform the child of those choices which are abuse.

Your little list is nothing more than another tool for abusers to use in order to silence the victim. But of course this is the main goal of the father's rights movement. They may preach equality for all except those who abuse, but in their eyes, any mother who dares stand on her own is a bad mother.

Sounds pretty dam sexist if you ask me, Godbey.



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