To Georgia Girl and jeana!!!

I must add in this little post that I think you are totally wonderful. Your strength in the face of arguing with the (cough gag puke snort) men over there is beyond words!!! And yes I posted this just to see the reaction) :-)

Women only have rights because men supported those rights

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Sonja Says:

May 11th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
GG, men supported women's rights. If they hadn't, women wouldn't have the freedoms they do.

I wonder sonja does this mean that since there are now men who are unhappy that a woman has these rights that were so nobly "given" to them by these wonderful men, that we should have to give them back? Or does it mean that we have to allow men to treat us however they would like and we cannot speak up about it? You were born in the wrong generation my dear, you need to move your date of birth back about 6 or 8 decades.

More from sonja - this needs the toilet

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Sonja Says:

May 1st, 2009 at 9:05 pm
...And no, frankly it is NOT your business where they live, what/how they earn money and what handouts they get from the government. They are doing these kids the kind of favour that most people wouldn't DREAM of doing for a child, and that in itself makes them practically saints in my eyes. Good on them for doing it.

So sonja why is it any of YOUR business if a newly created single mother gets assistance after leaving an abusive relationship? Oh yeah because there "could be" a dad out there somewhere and who cares if he was the reason this poor single mother is asking for help and is now single. he has rights damn it and we ust at all costs ensure those rights are adhered to. (end my OWN sarcasm)....

As far as GG mentioning another postsre's family member adopting otherwise "unadoptable" chidlren, those parents now get assiatnce for life in caring for those children. If one of those children is never able to work, the parents receive government handouts FOREVER. I am glad that someone has taken on a job nobody else appears to want, but they should do so if they can afford it. I am sure that the govt. programs helped solidify their decision. Plus you get more as an adoptive parent if a child is deemed unadoptable.

Sonja you are truly a piece of work...

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Sonja Says:

May 3rd, 2009 at 6:39 pm
GG, you are beyond belief!!

You read JeanB's post, then call her a liar, knowing NOTHING of her case, her attorney, or her!!! How DARE you make such an arbitrary judgement???

You call out Georgia Girl for supposedly making a statement and you ASS U ME quite a bit about her statement (it is FACT that unless it is not used all spouses former and current get medical benefits from the military). You have called many of the dv and abuse victims who have ATTEMPTED to post on balls website liars and much worse. Well I AM CALLING YOU OUT!!!!

HOW DARE YOU MAKE SUCH AN ABRITRARY JUDGMENT???

Kudos yet again to Georgia Girl!!! (or Getting it right in PAS cases)

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Georgia Girl Says:

April 25th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
I have no doubt that PAS is a real condition of alienation, but not in the context JeanB speaks. I firmly believe the the girlfriend or boyfriend in a divorced spouse's life has no business trying to intervene with the "children" of that spouse.

It is the spouse's responsibility to negotiate with both his ex-wife and with his children. And in jeanb's case, the father of the children was NOT the one who took the initiative. To me, this kind of generosity coming from the new girlfriend would only serve to aggravate the ex-wife (trying to put myself in the shoes of the ex-wife).

It's curious, also, that in this particular case, the father waited until they were college age before taking "action" to involve himself in his daughters' lives. Something sounds skewed here.

Georgia Girl if you read other comments from jeanb you will see that her boyfriend is what one commonly refers to as a deadbeat dad. They have even taken steps to ensure that the state cannot come after him (putting everything in her name). I wonder if when they file taxes does he file or does he ignore that little law too? You see in MRA world, we must do everything to ensure that little court order called child support is never followed.

Oh and step two in the MRA handbook? Make sure that everyone sees how BADLY the father has been alienated from HIS chidlren. Do not allow anyone to see if the FATHER may have actually done anything to turn the children against him on his own. You see yet again women are all powerful and we control the world (okay who is on drugs now).....

Links directly to my posts (and others) that are no longer available?

These are all posts which will no longer work on this page. This is due to the deletion of my 5 or 6 posts. Lets see I will try to recount all of those posts for you. The first one I wrote a vague commentary on the article. mca (menscollegeactivist) then addressed me and his posts were deleted as well. Jason then decided to join his brother in arms with this post:

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Jason Says:

February 22nd, 2009 at 8:42 pm
"Yet the men on here (and some women) say that when a woman has beaten a conviction in court, she is being given a sentencing discount."

Um... no.

What people mean when they talk about a sentencing discount is that when comparing men and women who have been convicted of the same crime, women tends to receive more lenient punative measures.

This is not the same thing as beating a conviction altogether.

You have misunderstood the terminology and how it is used.

Several more of my posts are then deleted again (again none with foul language, all asking if we could discuss this matter civilly as I had read through most of the report quoted in the quoted newspaper article. Jason then said something to the effect of two other hated female posters on that blog were "attacking" him as was I in his opinion and one of these women had some sort of obsession over his "private areas". I then asked him if he would provide a link to the obsession over his private areas by georgia girl, and he refused (makes me think he quite possibly HOPED georgia girl had this obsession, but again that is just my opinion. I challenge anyone to find this so-called obsession on gg's part over Jason's private parts. I pride myself on being somewhat Internet search savvy, and I could not locate it.

Norman then jumps into the fray by adding his two cents into the mix (which I might add has NOT been deleted):

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Norman L. Says:

February 23rd, 2009 at 2:12 am
Jason,

sounds like a loser, doesn't she?

If you choose to read the rest of the attacks on New friend or Glenn's Cult (well at least the ones that were left up by GS or RF) you may do so by clicking Petunia.

http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=3350#comment-747880

http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=3350#comment-747771

http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=3350#comment-747799

http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=3350#comment-747774

http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=3350#comment-747732

http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=3350#comment-747860

http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=3350#comment-747751

http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=3350#comment-747759

http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=3350#comment-747830

http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=3350#comment-747799

http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=3350#comment-747722

http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=3350#comment-747829

Now to show you that these links do work for the active posts which are viewable right now please go to:

jeana's post, one of Jason's MANY posts, now one must wonder why my posts were deleted? I followed GS's rules, I provided a good email address. It is my firm opinion that GS and the others involved in this attempt to beat women down, must not ever allow anyone who shows credibility the permission to post. It also goes against everything the cult followers of this entity state. GS does censore his website. My only question is

What are you in fear of GS?

Sister Wall Of Shame AKA Court Of Colluders and (drumroll please).....

I have plans to set up the Sister Wall of Shame AKA The Court Of Colluders very soon. As all things in nature have a right and a left, a dark and a light, a right and a wrong; I must also set up the Sister Wall Of Fame. I will be including those moms who in the face of extreme abuse, face off to the MRAs of today. This could be in any number of ways. Right now I only have three nominees (I have several in mind and since I know them I must seek their approval), but I will honor the three who I have seen doing the next right thing. My first I will speak of tomorrow evening. She uses the posting name 'Georgia Girl' and let me tell you, this woman is attacked from all sides. She is a victim like many of us, and as a vocal victim advocate in her own right, she tirelessly speaks out about rape. Yet she is attacked by these MRA types and even by several of the colluders mentioned here on yours truly's website. Seems there is no end to the women who would betray other women (is the sex that good?!?!?!). What kind of perks are you getting to betray a woman, especially one who is a victim?

I also have quite a lovely treat for those waiting (tomorrow - patience is a virtue now). Queen of all Queen colluders coming straight to us from down under. LGS have I got your attention now? Yes you LGS. I am sure you will recognize yourself once you see all of the filth that has spewed from your fingertips about the 'other woman'. Are you angry that she got your man first and you are left with sloppy seconds? Or do you have some deep rooted psych issue concerning a child's love for their mother? Or is it really simple and you are just Australia's biggest buffoon? I guess the world will have to wait until tomorrow evening to decide that issue. We can all then vote and decide who the biggest TARD is...... Ciao LGS..... AKA TARD because we all know your wonderful man's ex-wife is not a TARD, so you must only be speaking of yourself - YOU TARD!!!!!!!

Just when i thought they had calmed down to a dull roar

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Andre Lieven Says:

January 16th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Georgia Girl avoids facing the consequences of her misandry:

"I have in mind a general profile of a typical MRA, but I don't wanna sit here and duck the arrows, so I'll pass."

Too cowardly to back up your claims, eh ?

How typical for the common sexist feminist bigot.

The truth that bigots such as GG and jeana wish weren't true is that MRA's are working for actual Equality. Equality in front of the law, such that the concept of "innocent until proven guilty" applied to BOTH men *and* women.

The article and thread titled "She admits she framed him, but he's still charged" shows clearly that men ARE treated in the law as being LESS than any woman. Thats sexism, and thats WRONG.

Those who defend wrongful sexism, including misandrous sexism, ARE sexist bigots. QED.

This was in reply to these statements:

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jeana Says:

January 16th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
“and while you're at it, notice the sexes of the various players and their roles”

Ok, so instead of this being about what an awesome job the pilot did and the emergency workers, it is really more “boys are better than girls” because all of the helpers in the article were male.

But while you’re busy noticing the sex of those who helped the passengers, also please note their functions. Divers, police, pilot, and an Emergency Services chief. That is their JOB. They did their JOB. Thank you, dudes, for doing your JOB.

I hope no one is implying that if there were female officers that they’d just let the passengers drown????? Maybe they’d be too busy applying lip gloss.

One non-professional, a male passenger, was also credited for helping women and children. Great for him. Not his job, but he helped out. More people should be like him. The lady with the baby on her shoulder who he helped—should she have helped out the men in business suits?

I, for one, am very glad that Jeff Kolodjay was not an MRA. For if he was, he’d have trampled the women and children on his mad dash to get out of the plane.

and these:

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Georgia Girl Says:

January 16th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Sully is my hero!

It also warmed my heart that more than one of the male survivors put the lives of women and children above his own. That clearly indicates, to me, that the majority of men in our country do not fit the MRA profile.

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Georgia Girl Says:

January 16th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Wayne, you have described traits that are not exclusive to MRAs, but to mankind.

I have in mind a general profile of a typical MRA, but I don't wanna sit here and duck the arrows, so I'll pass.

Basically this post goes on and on ad infinitum about how wonderful men are, and how women are crybabies and always victims and always in need of rescuing and how these particular men (well at least the vast majority of them anyway) will not help because they are tired of being victims themselves. Thankfully both GG and jeana can hold their own against these MCPs and need no help from me. I however thought that MY readers should get an example of the levels to which these MRAs will stoop when writing about the 'victimization of men.' I am only on post 45 as of this writing and am nearly 100% disgusted with what I have read. Some of the cult followers have 'claimed' that women REFUSE to take jobs as police officers, divers, EMT, fire rescue personnel. One even claimed there were - get this - ZERO female responders at Ground Zero. Men do typically take these types of jobs more often than women. The tides are turning however. Fifty years ago you would never see a female EMT or fire fighter. They are gaining ground today however. And the notion that NO women were on Ground Zero is defeated with this link and this link.

Oh and my favorite (gag) MRA has surfaced again.

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Bill Christen Says:

January 16th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Kinda like when the first Space Shuttle blew up. You would have thought that the only person on board was the female teacher.

BC you have about no brains as well. The ONLY reason Christina Mcauliffe was mentioned so often is because she was NOT an astronaut. She WAS a schoolteacher, so therefore she was DIFFERENT. Just because she happened to be a she is of no call. If you recall, there have been two shuttle catastrophes and in the second (all were military/astronauts) two were women. On the first shuttle disaster, there were also two women (one of whom was Mcauliffe). These women were mentioned no more and no less than the other MALE astronauts. To say that society is anti-male because Mcauliffe was mentioned more is simply - words don't describe you BC. You are in a class of your own. One must expect that with your fantasy level, however.

Andre Lieven at it again (shakes head in amazement that he ACTUALLY believes himself)

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Andre Lieven Says:

January 16th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
jeana cluelessed:

"Do you want news reports to say, “And a MAN helped out the victims! Can you believe it, a MAN!!”"

Why NOT ? The daily news is FULL of reports that say "A BAD MAN did (X)".

Why can't it, Equally, say that "A GOOD MAN did (Y)" ? Or, "A bunch of Good Men did (Y)" ?

Why do you so OPPOSE Real Equality ?

Ummm Andre - the papers and TV news stations DO run stories about people all over the world every day who do good things. They also inform the public of those who do bad things. And sadly it is men consistently over time who "do bad things" - more so than women. It should also be pointed out that when a woman does the ultimate in horrendous (IE - the taking of the life of a child or the mere allegation of that act - such as Casey Anthony) we are constantly bombarded daily with her actions, words, thoughts. We are BOMBARDED with the thoughts of those close to that case. Where is the followup to Bruce Pardo? What of the followups with the survivors? Why is this not done? Simple....Men are quite often the type of perpetrator who would take the lives of his children, of his wife (ex-wife). Men are more frequently, MORE violent than women. Men cause more damage when they are violent than women do. This has come to be somewhat 'expected' (although it should not be). So we will see one or two articles on the 'bad men', and then they fall by the wayside. Simply put - bad men do not make controversy. 'Bad women' do...

I could continue on and on with this post but I think all of my faithful readers get the picture. Andre Lieven (in post 78 at the Petunia link) also discusses the Titanic survivor/fatality rates, delves into some severe misogyny in and of itself. And one last parting remark regarding the Paul/Linda debate....I would save PAUL simply because he has given much more to society. He is one of the Beatles for gosh sakes :-) Seriously though, I would give my life if it meant saving both of them. I would hope I would never be in the position to choose between saving one person or another. Given a choice the only time an easy choice would be made would be a child versus an adult. That would be a no-brainer. The child would ALWAYS come first.



UPDATE!!!!

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Andre Lieven Says:

January 17th, 2009 at 12:03 am

.....-Whats the difference between NOW and the KKK?
The KKK has a dress code.-

Can we get any more disgusting than this?!?!?!?!?!?!

And it seems Andre Lieven is hung up on the KKK and NOW? What is his hangup? MEN have traditionally had it easier than women. White men have it easier than anyone else. This is a fact of life - no matter how you spin it Andre. Get over yourself and your poor misguided feelings of oh woe is me.......